Server merge desprestly needed

[ogtucker117 1]

You seriously need to merge ZK and Elysium ASAP. ZK is dropping in population day by day and that would also be 1 less server bill you need to worry about. I dont even play on either of those 2 servers but for the sake of whole project this needs to happen. When AQ releases anathema will rise in population while elysium drops as players return. A zk/elysium merge NEEDS to happen, like within a week or two. trust me.

[Emptora 17]

They already said this isn't going to happen.

[Lopherus 4]

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Edited March 18, 2017 by Lopherus

[Insa 7]

Anathema rapidly looses population also. Its what you get when server goes offline for several days

[Revo 34]

21 hours ago, Emptora said:

They already said this isn't going to happen.

inb4 this is happening

[Emptora 17]

4 minutes ago, Revo said:

inb4 this is happening

It may eventually happen. Basically the server will go to about 900 people online average and it will be a breaking point. The logistics of it is the biggest issue. An already strained GM team, who gets to keep their character / guild names, and the complaints from the people who don't get priority is the most overwhelming issues at hand.

No matter the outcome, this much is for sure: Everyone will bitch, nobody will be happy, and nobody will be grateful.

[Revo 34]

i guess the servers costs will seal the deal if the popolation keeps shrinking. it still is a server that can hold ~12k

[Emptora 17]

Not really. The server is already paid up 3 months in advance. Moreover, if it means losing their characters, the 2 or 3 guilds who continue to log will simply fund it. What would it take? A couple bucks per player? It'd only take 100 players per month.

[indi 10]

We can't even break 2k anymore on Zeth, we've consistently lost our playerbase throughout these past two months and the death spiral will only continue as more and more guilds fold and people take breaks hoping for a merge.

Its honestly really sad atm on Zeth.

Merge is needed.

[Emptora 17]

At this point I'd be happy with a log-in server that consistently worked...

[Morathe 5]

I wanna say "I told you so" when we had famous old-server vs new-server war. I would say that but Anathema is dying too... dat War Effort lol. 

[Drain 19]

This is what happens when you make a totally unnecessary 4th realm. You also take a hit every time a realm is down for long periods of time. Anathema was KIA for 2 whole days. Now it's -500 on its average players. At this time all 4 realms are down, and who knows why or for how long. I am not a doomsday tinfoil hat prophet (you can find plenty of those on Youtube), but things do not look good. Personally I lost 2 MC resets when the server was down, along with most of my weekly rank progression (standing in the garbage 600s because server was KIA), then Thursday, the server went bust again right at our raid's start time, robbing us a good hour, and putting a time constraint on our BWL the whole night afterwards. We are not a guild that asks for handouts. We just want the server to work.

[Wrathran 4]

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This is what happens when you make a totally unnecessary 4th realm

Is it though? Just the other day there was 21k players online in total and that seems fair on 4 realms unless you want serious lag. I remeber on Nost with 12k players online was pretty much unplayable most of the time (was awesome anyway but pretty much unplayable).

Edited March 18, 2017 by Wrathran

[indi 10]

5 minutes ago, Wrathran said:

Is it though? Just the other day there was 21k players online in total and that seems fair on 4 realms unless you want serious lag. I remeber on Nost with 12k players online was pretty much unplayable most of the time (was awesome anyway but pretty much unplayable).

Lots of members of the community called out the 4th server being unnecessary due to the amount of people who would quit after the initial hype. We also weren't able to predict the amount of drama that would follow that certainly had an impact on the servers overall population.

Its only been two months and Zeth is basically dead and Elysium's own population has nearly halved, why not merge the two and consolidate resources and the community under one banner?

[homu2 1]

server merges won't happen because they simply can't do it and they will never learn how to do it

it's not like copypaste one base to another

kronos that have much better developers than this team made  a totally pathetic merge

blizzard themselves many years ago said that server merges give lots of problems

Edited March 19, 2017 by homu2

[indi 10]

13 minutes ago, homu2 said:

server merges won't happen because they simply can't do it and they will never learn how to do it

it's not like copypaste one base to another

kronos that have much better developers than this team made  a totally pathetic merge

blizzard themselves many years ago said that server merges give lots of problems

You realize Old Elysium and Anathema were merged, correct?

They have plenty of experience moving databases around, most recently they did it with Nostalrius xfers.

[homu2 1]

8 минут назад, indi сказал:

Nostalrius xfers

with the help of original nost team before they told them to fuck off and give back their project

everything that happened after is complete failure

their only hope were cresfall developers, but they told them to fuck off too

what a shame

Edited March 19, 2017 by homu2

[Emptora 17]

1 hour ago, Morathe said:

I wanna say "I told you so" when we had famous old-server vs new-server war. I would say that but Anathema is dying too... dat War Effort lol. 

Can't tell if you're being serious or...

Elysium regularly beats Anathema on population, despite the majority of connection and DDoS issues being native to Elysium alone. And before you even say "not until after the chargeback and Anathema was down for 4 days", no... Its been that way since Elysium launch. Why play Anathema while you guys wait ridiculous long for the Dev's to author the scripting for AQ. Odds are we'll be on the far end of the BWL patch awaiting War Effort before you guys even complete yours.

And the Dev's will say "we will get it right this time" and make the Elysium War Effort appropriate. Then Elysium will only be 3 months behind Anathema.

Enjoy BWL farm for another 13 months.

[Morathe 5]

You seem like you got your future planned ahead. I envy you. But being serious now, Anathema is emptier not because people are bored of MC and BWL (following that logic Elysium would be empty also right? or I'm missing some genius spark in the logic?). Servers are emptying because majority of people that are BiS or close to just don't make same mistake as on Nost and invest ton of time into a server that faces major obstacles time after time... while also suffering from bad decision making regarding progressive nature of it. Just my 2 cents tho, raidlogging till PTR folks tell me AQ is scripted nicely and playing Warhammer Total War till then:P

P.S I still need dft on hunter, 13 months might be just enough to get it.

Edited March 19, 2017 by Morathe

[Emptora 17]

With Elysium people know what they are in for at least until post-ZG. Its a reasonably set amount of months until the next few patches. They are tested, implemented, and working. However, nobody really knows at this point whats going on with Anathema. AQ "is ready to go" as soon as the war effort is "completed".

The first problem with Anathema is that Nost getting closed down and Anathema launching had the effect of a 20 year coma on many players. When the server shut down, it had 11k people on weekends and peak hours, and on non-peak hours it carried 9k easily. When people were in this 9 month coma, they found better things to do with their lives. Better yet, they decided not to return to their old life on Nostalrius. So in a sense, you are right. Regardless, Anathema sits at 1/2 the population on a good day as it did a year ago on its worst day.

OK... So now all the rumors about the "completed" part. A lot of people think they made the amounts so staggering because they aren't ready to release AQ. Even if it is ready to go at the press of a button, the completion is slated for several several months down the road. Some people didn't want to come back and farm BWL for many months when Anathema was first announced and launched. Many more left when they saw it was going to possibly be 2018-2019 until the War Effort completed.

But understand we are all waiting eagerly on Elysium, one because we know the schedule of our server for the next 10 months. We are reasonably sure that the developers will have no reason to make a 10+ month war effort. Things will be ready and they will say "we don't want to repeat the same mistake as Anathema". Either way, people see what happened there and we will be ready with supplies in hand I bet.

Or AQ never drops on either server and the project goes down like the Hindenberg. Whatever floats your boat.

[Insa 7]

The best solution would be to merge all PvP realms and all PvE realms. So there were only 2 servers total. Introduce queues after Elysium-Anathema merge if necessary. But if you dont start dealing with pop decrease now, soon it will escalate and we'll have several dead servers

[Playtime 0]

That is not going to happen, Anathema is on patch 1.9 and Elysium/Zeth'kur is getting patch 1.3 at the end of the month. There is only 1 PvE server so what do you want to merge that with?

[Revo 34]

2 hours ago, Playtime said:

That is not going to happen, Anathema is on patch 1.9 and Elysium/Zeth'kur is getting patch 1.3 at the end of the month. There is only 1 PvE server so what do you want to merge that with?

kronos 2, lul

[Morathe 5]

6 hours ago, Emptora said:

With Elysium people know what they are in for at least until post-ZG. Its a reasonably set amount of months until the next few patches. They are tested, implemented, and working. However, nobody really knows at this point whats going on with Anathema. AQ "is ready to go" as soon as the war effort is "completed".

The first problem with Anathema is that Nost getting closed down and Anathema launching had the effect of a 20 year coma on many players. When the server shut down, it had 11k people on weekends and peak hours, and on non-peak hours it carried 9k easily. When people were in this 9 month coma, they found better things to do with their lives. Better yet, they decided not to return to their old life on Nostalrius. So in a sense, you are right. Regardless, Anathema sits at 1/2 the population on a good day as it did a year ago on its worst day.

OK... So now all the rumors about the "completed" part. A lot of people think they made the amounts so staggering because they aren't ready to release AQ. Even if it is ready to go at the press of a button, the completion is slated for several several months down the road. Some people didn't want to come back and farm BWL for many months when Anathema was first announced and launched. Many more left when they saw it was going to possibly be 2018-2019 until the War Effort completed.

But understand we are all waiting eagerly on Elysium, one because we know the schedule of our server for the next 10 months. We are reasonably sure that the developers will have no reason to make a 10+ month war effort. Things will be ready and they will say "we don't want to repeat the same mistake as Anathema". Either way, people see what happened there and we will be ready with supplies in hand I bet.

Or AQ never drops on either server and the project goes down like the Hindenberg. Whatever floats your boat.

There are more factors that come into play in order to find a reason why Anathema is at current population tbh. In my book its:

-fact that there are more old chars here and those people tend to go less active unless they are die-hard fans and roll alt over alt over alt to keep them 24/7 busy, forever, no matter the content. 

-lot of people actually believed all the cucks like Alexensual and consider a server a fraud at this point, rumors spread fast and new people are hesitant to join. Not to mention that hate, flaming and overall badmouthing is running rampant on forums... imagine you're a new guy that want to check in for server stability/well being and you got problems finding one positive post on a wall, everything is either conspiracy, "ways to fix everything bad" or pure smart ass trolling. I bet its a valid way to scare new people away. 

-Downtimes are obvious reason and you could say its not their fault that they are getting DDoSed. Makes me think tho (which is both optimistic and pessimistic depending on what we choose to believe), are they being target because others are salty/envious or because they pissed off people with some solid reason. I try to be optimistic but last weeks its fuck up after fuck up. 2 months ago we had over 10k ppl on Anathema, sure huge chunk were goldselling bots and china farmers that got deleted but it still hurts to log on a sunday morning and see 2.5k. Its surely enough to have fun but I hope its not a sign of continous decline.