Just a thought

[Morathe 5]

9 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

Its not allowed.  The original developers went out of their way to program the game in such a way to prevent it.  People think because they can circumvent the rules it's magically ok to do.

They programmed they game the way its possible to do. If they wanted to prevent it they'd program a game that way that if you stand next to a horde for more than 30 seconds and neither of you attack each other u'd both die and get teleported to different parts of the world. If you talk about languages as a prevention methods... I feel its Roleplaying flavour and nothing more. This is not RP server. 

[Kelgoroth 1]

I am unsure whether something like the mafia should be forbidden or whether thats even possible.

Nevertheless I think the way Morathe is posting is very poor. Also he seems very triggered for me. Even his smileys won't help.

Anyways some philosophy of another guild I found : "The reputation is one reason, yes. We work hard to be the helpful, skilled but not too hardcore guild on the server."

"For the most of us the reason to play the game is the community and not the database entries that make your character stronger. I hope we can have influence there as well."

But I should not expect the mafia to care for anyone but themselves.

[Morathe 5]

1 hour ago, Kelgoroth said:

Nevertheless I think the way Morathe is posting is very poor. Also he seems very triggered for me. Even his smileys won't help.

Oh it comes from innate fightiness and lack of proper education. I'm triggered 24/7 but then again I'm on a holy crusade vs whiners and white knights so thats the side effect. 

P.S I'm not even fighting for Cartel agenda atm. I'm fighting against people that force server changes via their crying which is natural for wow communities (check retail state for a proof). But it triggers me extra because folks realize Elysium is kinda on weak legs here atm so they gather like vultures to pressure them with how the server should be changed... thats fucking low in my opinion. People were silent when it happened on Nostalrius or at the beginnings of Elysium cause they were told its allowed... period... but now that Elysium lost a lot of momentum they come back with their whining again hoping they will scare everyone into submission saying "you will loose even more people if you keep allowing this". 

Edit. Then again true vanilla experience require a fair mass of noobs so stick around folks and never leave us. We need a cannon fodder. 

Edited March 27, 2017 by Morathe

[Guest]

FYI, Morathe has just been heavily upvoted. Because avatar is smiling.

Edited March 27, 2017 by Jorn Skyseer

[Hurricane2 2]

1 hour ago, Morathe said:

People were silent when it happened on Nostalrius or at the beginnings of Elysium cause they were told its allowed... period...

Maybe they stated this on nost but they have not here.  On Elysium they said they can't prevent or monitor communication outside the game so they can't sanction players.  Again, just because you can do it and get away with it doesn't mean it's allowed.  

[Wrathran 4]

21 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

Its not allowed.  The original developers went out of their way to program the game in such a way to prevent it.  People think because they can circumvent the rules it's magically ok to do.

It is allowed. Get it? On this realm, it is allowed, no matter what the original developers did or did not intend. It is allowed HERE, today, right now, when we play now on this private server and these rules are decided by the people who run the server.

[Jeddite 9]

Every Hunter who ever assisted an enemy Hunter during the RokLokDokDelar quest should be permanently banned for intra-faction cooperation because that's clearly against the rules because pussykids like Hurricane2 said so.

[Morathe 5]

3 hours ago, Jeddite said:

Every Hunter who ever assisted an enemy Hunter during the RokLokDokDelar quest should be permanently banned for intra-faction cooperation because that's clearly against the rules because pussykids like Hurricane2 said so.

Hahaha. Give this guy a cookie. 

[Revo 34]

3 hours ago, Jeddite said:

Every Hunter who ever assisted an enemy Hunter during the RokLokDokDelar quest should be permanently banned for intra-faction cooperation because that's clearly against the rules because pussykids like Hurricane2 said so.

actually, only pussies let other hunters help you with rok delar @retail. back then, i completed 3 of the demons totally alone without any help and most did or atleast try really hard to kill all on their own. even if it took days or weeks to accomplish. ppl back then had a different spirit and honor. now all they care about are the items, gold,... no matter how to get it.

a bit off topic, but you guys not acting like 2004-guys are disgusting and ruining my immersion. pls go to retail

Edited March 28, 2017 by Revo

[Guest]

3 часа назад, Revo сказал:

pls go to retail

Words made of gold.

[Hurricane2 2]

19 hours ago, Wrathran said:

It is allowed. Get it? On this realm, it is allowed, no matter what the original developers did or did not intend. It is allowed HERE, today, right now, when we play now on this private server and these rules are decided by the people who run the server.

It is not allowed.  Ask the admins if you need clarification as you seem to be unable to comprehend a relatively simple statement.

[Wrathran 4]

16 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

It is not allowed.  Ask the admins if you need clarification as you seem to be unable to comprehend a relatively simple statement.

You claim it's not allowed. Show me the rule or GameMaster who say this is not allowed.
I don't need to ask anyhting as the rules are posted on the website for everyone to read.

This is what the rules say:

Quote

C. Gameplay
a ). Player vs Player

The Elysium staff recognizes all play styles to be valid and a part of the game and not harassment.

Elysium could at anytime write in the rules that cross faction communication and cooperation is not allowed, but they have chosen not to.

This doesn't mean I agree, it just means, IT IS ALLOWED. Personally I think it should be banned but at the same time I understand the volunteering Game Masters have much more important things to spend their time on.

Edited March 29, 2017 by Wrathran

[Morathe 5]

15 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

It is not allowed.  Ask the admins if you need clarification as you seem to be unable to comprehend a relatively simple statement.

We asked gms time and time again. If you bring a case bring a screenshots of gm saying its not allowed. Its not that we have to prove here we're doing a good thing, its you guys claiming its wrong and that you got a server staff backup... so its on your end to prove it. Don't be riddiculous with burdening us (those that claim its allowed) with task of mending your sense of justice. 

Quote

C. Gameplay
a ). Player vs Player

The Elysium staff recognizes all play styles to be valid and a part of the game and not harassment.

 

Edited March 29, 2017 by Morathe

[Morathe 5]

Now did you get it thru ur skulls? Its ALLOWED according to ToU. Sleep over it and either accept it or be gone cause its tiring to hear all your tortured screams over and over again.

Edited March 29, 2017 by Morathe

[keck82 1]

cross faction isnt the problem the problem is same faction harassment which can not be referred to as pvp and has to be referred to as harassment and ninjaskinning.

the admins can now choose to do something against the harassment and ninjaskinning or they choose to create an enviroment where harassment is ok and anyone can harass the crap out of whoever they want

i could for example follow your toon for 3 hours and skinn all your mobs or follow your toon and sheep all the mobs becouse its just competition right?

obviously thats not an enviroment in which anyone would want to play but im sure the mafia trolls will claim that its absolutely fine

[Revo 34]

1 faction per account

+ 1 account per player

= great success

[Hurricane2 2]

2 hours ago, Morathe said:

Now did you get it thru ur skulls? Its ALLOWED according to ToU. Sleep over it and either accept it or be gone cause its tiring to hear all your tortured screams over and over again.

If it were allowed then you'd be able to team up with horde in other places like major cities and bgs.  I'm not the one here with comprehension issues.  

[Wrathran 4]

3 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

If it were allowed

Stop saying "if", it IS allowed until someone shows a rule or comment from a GameMaster stating that it's not. The default position is that something is allowed until you can demonstrate that it's not allowed.

3 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

then you'd be able to team up with horde in other places like major cities

Go ahead, totally fine. I don't know why and for what gain, but cross faction communication and cooperation is allowed because it's not against the rules.

3 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

and bgs

Battlegrounds is a totally different story because here you can find clear info that cross faction cooperation and win-trading is forbidden!
https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/38545-win-trading/

 

[Hurricane2 2]

22 minutes ago, Wrathran said:

Battlegrounds is a totally different story because here you can find clear info that cross faction cooperation and win-trading is forbidden!
https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/38545-win-trading/

 

So what's the difference on a PvP server between bgs and contested zones that makes cooperating ok in contested zones and a no no in bgs?  You fight over resources in both.  

[Wrathran 4]

59 minutes ago, Hurricane2 said:

So what's the difference on a PvP server between bgs and contested zones that makes cooperating ok in contested zones and a no no in bgs?  You fight over resources in both.  

Win-trading and cross faction honor farming is not allowed anywhere acording to that post.

On 2017-02-21 at 2:38 AM, Pottu said:

Win trading, and honour farming are not allowed and will lead to a permanent ban.

[Haestingas 30]

Oh look its thread #203 crying about devilsaur. Man you people are a special kind of crazy.

[Svetozar 0]

fuck your receding hairline wrath

 

[Hurricane2 2]

I'm well aware of the rules, that's why I asked you why you think those rules only apply in certain zones and not game wide.  You cant can't hold hands with horde if you're alliance in bgs, what's so different about un'goro that makes you think you can all of the sudden?

Edited March 29, 2017 by Hurricane2

[Lorilay 12]

Armchair lawyers trying to expand the term "win trading" beyond "trading wins."

[Wrathran 4]

58 minutes ago, Hurricane2 said:

what's so different about un'goro that makes you think you can all of the sudden?

You ask what's the difference between something that is allowed and something that isn't allowed.

Well the difference is that it's allowed.

You should really ask WHY it's allowed. And that question can only Elysium answer.

Edited March 29, 2017 by Wrathran