So, let's talk about the population diminishing

[Lifealert 19]

Server goes down for 2 days and 500 people rerolled hellground never to come back despite the server shut down. So dumb. 

[Guest]

15 минут назад, Lifealert сказал:

people are dumb. 

In other news, water is wet.

[Lifealert 19]

Not to crabs

[Firebrand 3]

Runescape got their best moment living again but with new updates voted by the players.

 

The most autistic game broke the autism and cashed / is cashing hard

 

Why cannot vanilla wow do the same?.

As someone that never played wow before nostalrius ive had fun with it. Wouldnt mind seeing something new as everything is new for me.. they could add oandas and the only reason I would know they are not i supposed to be in vanilla are guides or other players.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Firebrand

[JCatEly 0]

A lot of you are really over looking the life expectancy of Vanilla WoW. This game was never meant to support a bloated population for any significant duration, add the fact that this content is over a decade old and has absolutely no secrets and you've got the reason behind people leaving; there's nothing Elysium can do about it or should be blamed for. Elysium's goal is to provide Vanilla content in a blizz-like fashion for the sake of allowing old gamer to re-live their past experiences and show new gamers the significance of an archaic piece of gaming, and they've doneexactly that.
I really don't know how else to put it; this is a boring ass grinding game that  W I L L  N O T  E V E R maintain a huge population, ever, get over it. 

TLDR; quit bitching or quit playing because Elysium Staff doesn't owe you anything. 

[JCatEly 0]

To be fair the population is obviously decreasing (not to say its in a critical state imo..) and it would probably be wise to merge Zeth'kur and Elysium to sate the whiners and cut down on server costs but Elysium deserves more credit than it's given in this thread. When nerds want to bitch about free-ware community work because it's not tailored to their expectations I'd almost lump them in with gold spammers as far as selfish losers go. 

[Yoga 3]

You guys understand that orginal timeline was 4/2016 for AQ and most of the people who started on Nostalrius did all their preparations 1 year ago. There is no fixing their setups for AQ thats done year ago. Then we lost nost for 8 months when AQ were supposed to be ready. And now its 3,5 months after re-opening and still no sign of AQ with ridiculous war effort that many takes as a statement AQ isn't really ready. That is why population is dimishing in Anathema, many players are just bored doing only BWL and MC and they don't trust we get well scripted AQ which means no Naxx which means hop out of the project which means you just lost all your core in guild and mby 50% of the players who didnt want to quit in the beginning continue playing. 10k -> 4,5k in 3 months without AQ.

[AzAMOuS 2]

1 hour ago, Yoga said:

You guys understand that orginal timeline was 4/2016 for AQ and most of the people who started on Nostalrius did all their preparations 1 year ago. There is no fixing their setups for AQ thats done year ago. Then we lost nost for 8 months when AQ were supposed to be ready. And now its 3,5 months after re-opening and still no sign of AQ with ridiculous war effort that many takes as a statement AQ isn't really ready. That is why population is dimishing in Anathema, many players are just bored doing only BWL and MC and they don't trust we get well scripted AQ which means no Naxx which means hop out of the project which means you just lost all your core in guild and mby 50% of the players who didnt want to quit in the beginning continue playing. 10k -> 4,5k in 3 months without AQ.

Accurate.

[Ickus 40]

On 3/21/2017 at 10:32 PM, Xylon666Darkstar said:

And the population is still healthy. Who cares.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Ickus

[Ickus 40]

10 hours ago, Dralek said:

Hardly a main one, given it only affects people that are fully decked in tier2/BWL gear.

For the many 60's in blues, tier1/MC gear, or half tier2/BWL gear, it really changes nothing, in fact in some way gives them the chance to assemble their sets before AQ is realeased.

The most probable explanation is the connection problems. Last week anathema was down for 2 entire days. And 12-16 hour shut-downs are a common weekly theme. Also the daily DDOS makes playing at peak times imposible some days. Furthermore, the loss of some new player influx joining destroys open-world fun such as pvp campers and stuff. Same goes for instance battleground, which now days are few and always against premades.

The population began decreasing as soon as Elysium launched, and it kept going down as the weeks went by. The diference is that now it has reached a noticeable margin (5k peak compared to the initial 9k capped, almost half).

Dude I can name about 20 guilds where basically everyone is in full bwl gear. Your idea is terrible and your guild must be too if you're still progressing in BWL. Backporting the Anathema characters is hands down the worst idea ever put on this forum. If your idea is how to get every raider on Anathema to quit then you are spot on.

 

Edited March 24, 2017 by Ickus

[Dralek 5]

2 hours ago, Ickus said:

Dude I can name about 20 guilds where basically everyone is in full bwl gear. Your idea is terrible and your guild must be too if you're still progressing in BWL. Backporting the Anathema characters is hands down the worst idea ever put on this forum. If your idea is how to get every raider on Anathema to quit then you are spot on.

 

Sure go ahead, name them. Every charcter too. You said it yourself raiders have nothing to do, thus the reason they quit. And most are already quitting. So what difference would it make? People cry that they have nothing to do and want the new patch, but then quit and migrate to another realm, to start all over and run MC. The drama created by hardcore raiders escapes all logic.

In all seriousness, the zk+anathema is just a suggestion regarding the population cap. In fact many zek'thur players were anathema players, that couldn't manage the cap in Elysium. You don't have to do it, or like it, its just mere thought among the number of possibilities that we could implement to restore the population, given that zek'thur should have never existed in the first place (or just exist as a temporary solution for elysium cap).

[Ickus 40]

Please refer yourself to raidstats and look at how many guilds clear bwl weekly.  And yea people are leaving because of a lack of content so you're suggestion is give them just MC? Then bwl for another 6 'months after that? People are already sick of bwl.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Ickus

[Banezilla 2]

6 hours ago, Yoga said:

You guys understand that orginal timeline was 4/2016 for AQ and most of the people who started on Nostalrius did all their preparations 1 year ago. There is no fixing their setups for AQ thats done year ago. Then we lost nost for 8 months when AQ were supposed to be ready. And now its 3,5 months after re-opening and still no sign of AQ with ridiculous war effort that many takes as a statement AQ isn't really ready. That is why population is dimishing in Anathema, many players are just bored doing only BWL and MC and they don't trust we get well scripted AQ which means no Naxx which means hop out of the project which means you just lost all your core in guild and mby 50% of the players who didnt want to quit in the beginning continue playing. 10k -> 4,5k in 3 months without AQ.

I doubt Nost shared their AQ scripting with this project, no wonder they're stalling.

Anathema has been on life support for too long, it was inevitable that it would die. Who would want to play with a bunch of entitled millennials like Lifealert?

[Guest]

31 минуту назад, Dralek сказал:

People cry that they have nothing to do and want the new patch, but then quit and migrate to another realm, to start all over and run MC. The drama created by hardcore raiders escapes all logic.

Worth 1 gold bar. Hardcore raiders are MCed by default.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Jorn Skyseer

[Ickus 40]

3 minutes ago, Banezilla said:

I doubt Nost shared their AQ scripting with this project, no wonder they're stalling.

Anathema has been on life support for too long, it was inevitable that it would die. Who would want to play with a bunch of entitled millennials like Lifealert?

Nost shared everything with Elysium. It seems like the server with their name on it takes priority over the older servers. And lifealert hasn't said anything the rest of the pop isn't silently thinking... that the war effort needs updated soon or the servers rip... he's right and you just sound butt hurt.

[Dralek 5]

5 minutes ago, Ickus said:

Please refer yourself to raidstats and look at how many guilds clear bwl weekly.  And yea people are leaving because of a lack of content so you're suggestion is give them just MC? Then bwl for another 6 'months after that? People are already sick of bwl.

if people are sick of BWL, they can very well invest their time and just farm the war effort materials, and have their AQ event. The fact that hlf the guilds have refused makes me think they are not really that interested in moving the realm foward. Complaining that you have nothing to do, yet not doing what is available to you is stupid.

My suggestion is that, regardless of what you wish for, eventually, mergers will happen, once population numbers get so low.

Let me ask you something, if by the time we are done with AQ and in the wait for naxx, the population gets so low and a merger is required we would have to do it anyways. I rather have it now, refarm bwl for whats necessary and be done with it.

Try to think ahead.

[Guest]

7 минут назад, Dralek сказал:

if people are sick of BWL, they can very well invest their time and just farm the war effort materials

How could you even think about suggesting this?! Hardcore raiders can't be bothered!!

Edited March 24, 2017 by Jorn Skyseer

[Ickus 40]

People aren't farming for the war effort because it's impossible to complete. Dude I really think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Most guilds are raid logging because they said they're fixing the war effort, which lends to people waiting on the fix to see what they need to farm. But all we have from Shenna and the Devs is silence so people are starting to say fuck it. 

You also realize only so many herbs/mobs spawn and if they're farmed on cooldown then it is still months away from completion because those stockpiled mats are lost to the nether or simply never existed.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Ickus

[Guest]

4 минуты назад, Ickus сказал:

it's impossible to complete.

Impossible?

[Ickus 40]

You're a meme god haha

[Banezilla 2]

9 minutes ago, Ickus said:

Nost shared everything with Elysium. It seems like the server with their name on it takes priority over the older servers. And lifealert hasn't said anything the rest of the pop isn't silently thinking... that the war effort needs updated soon or the servers rip... he's right and you just sound butt hurt.

It's obvious that the rest of the pop is not silently thinking with Lifealert. He's been trying to recruit players to roll on a dying server, how has that worked out? Elysium is not going to RIP if the Anathema war effort isn't updated, sorry boy.

[Dralek 5]

1 minute ago, Ickus said:

People aren't farming for the war effort because it's impossible to complete. Dude I really think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Most guilds are raid logging because they said they're fixing the war effort, which lends to people waiting on the fix to see what they need to farm. But all we have from Shenna and the Devs is silence so people are starting to say fuck it.

Exactly. You do not wish to do the war effort.

If people hadn't been crying about it, and had actually done it, it would be near completition. But most hardcore raids are refusing to play whats available to them. And no, its not imposible, its just not economically viable. Some guilds have re-rolled on other servers, and would rather be leveling in barrens than farming mats. That is their choice.

I agree the materials requiered are excesive. But it is, by all means, something to do for what you described as "bored players".

[Ickus 40]

Just now, Dralek said:

Exactly. You do not wish to do the war effort.

If people hadn't been crying about it, and had actually done it, it would be near completition. But most hardcore raids are refusing to play whats available to them. And no, its not imposible, its just not economically viable. Some guilds have re-rolled on other servers, and would rather be leveling in barrens than farming mats. That is their choice.

I agree the materials requiered are excesive. But it is, by all means, something to do for what you described as "bored players".

The part of the war effort they added is the shit part. And dude you have legit no clue what you're talking about. The fun in the war effort is the stuff in silithus WHICH WASNT ADDED. 

[Guest]

No hands - no cookies.

No war effort - no silithus fun.

speaking of cookies...

Edited March 24, 2017 by Jorn Skyseer

[Dralek 5]

3 minutes ago, Ickus said:

The part of the war effort they added is the shit part. And dude you have legit no clue what you're talking about. The fun in the war effort is the stuff in silithus WHICH WASNT ADDED. 

Given that your entire comments are based on the part that you are "bored" of BWL, and MC, pretty much anything you do at this point is a boring hassle, just like farming mats.

Again, you are crying that you have nothing to do (along with the rest of the hardcore raiders) and only raid log to do, for the millionth time "boring BWL and boring MC".

Why not do the boring "mat farming" so you can have AQ? Because complaining and comfortably waiting is easier.

If every raider drama queen would have played the war effort, they would probably be raiding AQ this saturday. They chose not to. Thats their fault, not everyone elses.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Dralek