Warrior as first character

[Beta 0]

Hello guys. First of all sorry for my english because I'm not very good at it. But I'd like to ask some questions about warriors.

I've never played vanilla before and currently leveling mage. I started it because I heard a lot of times that it's easy to level and you can farm some instances with it to make gold. But the case is... It's a bit boring. And I have to drink after every 2 yellow mobs (currently 25 level) and after every 3 if they are green. Now I want to reroll warrior as I always liked melee character in all rpg games. But I have some doubts:

1. Lots of people say that warrior is hard to level. And that warriors are very gear dependent even during leveling. Is it true?

2. If I still decide to level warrior what spec should I choose (I don't wanna play tank)?

Thanks for your answers in advance and again sorry for my english.

[Pwnana 1]

Generally speaking it's quite a lot harder to level than the mage. And if you have trouble with the speed and ease of leveling as a mage, you will be climbing the walls playing the warrior... unless you clean out the AH to gear it up every few levels. Also if you don't like playing a tank (it's the most demanding role in vanilla) then you really probably shouldn't roll a warrior. Even if you're not specced for it you will be asked to tank often.

Since you like playing Melee, I would recommend a rogue. It sounds like it fits your bill of being fun, versatile (many skills and specs that are good) and relatively speedy to level.

EDIT: if you decide to go ahead anyway then to your second question I'd recommend putting talents points into Fury. 5/5 Cruelty, 5/5 Unbridled Rage, 3/3 Blood Craze, 1/1 Piercing Howl, *1 random*, 5/5 Enrage to start with.

Edited March 28, 2017 by Pwnana

[csant 3]

The good thing about playing a warrior you can tank good enough spec as fury. If you dont want to tank, it will be super hard to find groups as a dps warrior. Simply because Tanks are in such high demand. 

Advise if you do pick warrior... get cooking, first aid and keep them both high enough for your level. You will need them both for leveling. =) 

[Beta 0]

15 минут назад, csant сказал:

If you dont want to tank, it will be super hard to find groups as a dps warrior. Simply because Tanks are in such high demand. 

 

There is no dps warriors in vanilla or smth? 

[Lebowski 0]

If you don't want to play a tank then don't play warrior. I'd suggest a rogue or mage/warlock. You'll always need a shield as a warrior, no exceptions.  However, DPS warrior's are needed in every raid and scale well with gear and are amongst the highest dps end-game.

[Beta 0]

I don't get it. Every warrior has to be tank? I know that you have to carry shield with you but tanking? Every raid back in wotlk+ had MT and OT and in some cases u needed more than 1 OT. But that's it. I just don't want to play MT or OT, I want to dps as warrior. This whole thing about "don't wanna tank - don't play warrior" confuses me :/

[quest008 0]

Nobody levels a warrior with a protection build. Most level by starting with a Fury build, then it usually ends up 20/31/0 (Arms/Fury/Prot). You just need a decent shield to tank in pre-60 instances. Then at 60 you can respec to 31/5/15 which makes you good enough for both tanking and PvP, or something like 17/34/0 or 18/33/0 for DPS only.

Edited March 28, 2017 by quest008

[Pwnana 1]

56 minutes ago, Beta said:

I don't get it. Every warrior has to be tank? I know that you have to carry shield with you but tanking? Every raid back in wotlk+ had MT and OT and in some cases u needed more than 1 OT. But that's it. I just don't want to play MT or OT, I want to dps as warrior. This whole thing about "don't wanna tank - don't play warrior" confuses me :/

Like ppl have said, DPS Fury warrior is great in endgame raids and many people play it. But 99% of the game is not endgame raids, and if you play a warrior you will default to a tank role when you group with ppl, because it's the only class set up for that purpose (and hence the lack of tanks). It's not us that are trying to push you or any other warriors to be a tank, but rather the game mechanics in vanilla that are set up that way. That's why people say "if you don't wanna tank, don't roll warrior"

If you level up and run dungeons with pals or guildies who tank in your groups then you will have no problem playing DPS warr at any point.

Edited March 28, 2017 by Pwnana

[Beta 0]

Ok, now i get it. And if I'm not mistaken you can tank even with fury/arms build? Just switching to 1h + shield and def stance?

Edited March 28, 2017 by Beta

[Lebowski 0]

1 hour ago, Beta said:

Ok, now i got it. And if I'm not mistaken you can tank even with fury/arms build? Just switching to 1h + shield and def stance?

you got it

[Storfan 24]

11 hours ago, Beta said:

Hello guys. First of all sorry for my english because I'm not very good at it. But I'd like to ask some questions about warriors.

I've never played vanilla before and currently leveling mage. I started it because I heard a lot of times that it's easy to level and you can farm some instances with it to make gold. But the case is... It's a bit boring. And I have to drink after every 2 yellow mobs (currently 25 level) and after every 3 if they are green. Now I want to reroll warrior as I always liked melee character in all rpg games. But I have some doubts:

1. Lots of people say that warrior is hard to level. And that warriors are very gear dependent even during leveling. Is it true?

2. If I still decide to level warrior what spec should I choose (I don't wanna play tank)?

Thanks for your answers in advance and again sorry for my english.

1. Warrior is the hardest, most soul-crushing class to level by far but also the most rewarding in terms in gear and challenge. Mage is a breeze in comparison.

2. 2h-fury. Not arms, Not dualwield, only 2h-fury. Also, in 9/10 dungeons you will probably be expected to tank unless you happen by a group that got a feral druid or protection paladin willing to tank. Expect to be discriminated against by other warriors. I for one, when lvling up would never bring another warrior if I was tanking. The availability of alternative dpsers are simply too great so there's no reason to bring another warrior that will roll on the same gear. This all changes in raids though. Fury warriors are in high demand there because of their very good damage output (but even then you will be expected to offtank from time to time).

9 hours ago, Beta said:

There is no dps warriors in vanilla or smth? 

As mentioned above. Fury warrior is the supreme dps class in most vanilla content.

9 hours ago, Beta said:

I don't get it. Every warrior has to be tank? I know that you have to carry shield with you but tanking? Every raid back in wotlk+ had MT and OT and in some cases u needed more than 1 OT. But that's it. I just don't want to play MT or OT, I want to dps as warrior. This whole thing about "don't wanna tank - don't play warrior" confuses me :/

wotlk had 25man raids. Vanilla have 40man raids. 2-3 Protection tanks is the barebones-minimum that experienced raiding guilds will bring to raids. Most "average" guilds will bring 3-5 protection warriors. Likewise you will also often see about 3-5 fury warriors in most 40man raids and a couple of those will often be expected to offtank on certain bosses or trashpacks.

8 hours ago, Beta said:

Ok, now i get it. And if I'm not mistaken you can tank even with fury/arms build? Just switching to 1h + shield and def stance?

Correct. You can, and you will be expected to.

[Undertanker 88]

Like Storfan explained, certain pulls in a raid you will need to tank.

If your raid has 3-prot warriors:

Certain bosses have 4 or more adds that need to be tanked, and you may be asked to do so on those bosses.  3 out of 10 bosses in Molten Core.

BWL you will not be needed for boss adds, but more so some trash pulls you will be assigned a target, and may be asked to help on trash phase of Nef (last boss) fight.

ZG, Tiger boss helps to use a fury in tank gear if kiting one of the 3-adds, he poison cloud stuns the Hunter, taunt it and wait for Hunter to resume.

AQ 3 bugs boss, Satura, and some trash your name may be called as well.

If this scares you, roll rogue.

[Beta 0]

2 часа назад, Undertanker сказал:

If this scares you, roll rogue.

Nope, it sounds interesting. The only thing that scares me is "soul-crushing leveling process" but we will see :)

Thank you everyone for your responses.

[Storfan 24]

22 minutes ago, Beta said:

Nope, it sounds interesting. The only thing that scares me is "soul-crushing leveling process" but we will see :)

Thank you everyone for your responses.

Trust me, its worth it. Also, give tanking a shot, you may like it.

[SKSPlays 0]

7 hours ago, Beta said:

Nope, it sounds interesting. The only thing that scares me is "soul-crushing leveling process" but we will see :)

Thank you everyone for your responses.

Ive leveled a warrior  in Vanilla to 60, Nost to 60, and now I am doing a 3rd on this version of the game. It takes time, but a warrior class must know how to use its abilities.  You will die, you will die alot, but you will know your warrior by the time you get to 60.  Its an amazing class and yes, its looked upon as either Tank or DPS if that is needed.  Tanking will grow on you. I used to hate it, went to rank 13 in PVP back in the day, but I evolved into a tank which I love to this day.  Just remember to have fun with it. :) 

[Futi 0]

Just try to get a good knowledge on how to make gold in game. Read sin's gold guide and youll be set. There are a lot of mats selling for a good amount from lvl 15+ already. Make gold and get a good amount of bear/str gear.

buy a good superior weapon from lvl 20+ Until whirlwind axe. 

Whirlwind axe until lvl 40+ then run ulda last boss has 2 good weapons.

 Dont go 1h fury until you get devilsaur/mara ring and a rly good weapon combo(krol blade/axe of the deep woods+ Trash blade)

ppl say lvling warrior is hard. Its not true if you have great gear.

 

tip: when starting the fight, sit down between auto attacks( u get critted 100% and will proc attack speed buff from fury past lvl 20something)

Use the addon "attackbartimer" to track ur auto attack.

 Another good tip with warriors while lvling is to move between ur auto atacks toward ur destination.

always kill everything on ur way when ur questing

 

I recently rolled druid to 60 on horde. It was fun but its harder to rly love my character as much as a warrior honestly. Warriors are much more rewarding.

 

 

 

 

[demmunitygodx 0]

It can be done but you will be asked to tank at some point.Take first aid and cooking

[cargalia 2]

At any rate go fury. Don't get burnt out 

[Crixx 2]

warrior is worth the trouble. like others said, the class is much more rewarding in the long run. every piece you get enhances your character and you can feel every update.

this is my 3rd warrior on private vanilla servers and i cannot find another class giving me the satisfaction from playing. while i do admire other dps classes for their dps tier sets, i mean you hunters and rogues :< but there is nothing a warrior loves more than a great new epic weapon to play with.

Just enjoy the way to 60 and log off if you can not handle dying and getting camped, since you cannot really fight any class at your level if you dont outgear them or with heavy usage of pots and luck ^^

[Garun 9]

On ‎3‎/‎28‎/‎2017 at 3:47 PM, Beta said:

There is no dps warriors in vanilla or smth? 

There are, but you are expected to be able to off-tank on a few fights in raids. Also tanking makes gearing up WAY easier since tanks are in high demand for 5-mans/UBRS, and many warrior tanks will not take fury warriors since some of them are tanking to get fury gear for raids. Don't worry, you will dps 80%+ of the time in raids though.