Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon

[Aniva 1]

So it has become vendor trash now? because it never procs? please fix what did you do ELYSIUM!

[Mahtan 15]

Can you explain please, what you mean? Has there been a recent fix that you have in mind?

[Aniva 1]

it never procs at all anymore i don't know what they did to it but i never get the proc from the trinket. i don't know, make it actually work is my fix to this.

[Roxy 8]

From my testing, it does not proc off instant casts, with the exception of direct damage instants like holy nova.

I dont know if that is blizzlike or not, but it not proccing of hots and dispels reduces its value a lot

[Summer 26]

It is currently only proccing from spells with a casting time. But the fix for that is on the dev server for almost a month, it will be live with the next update! It will then proc from every spell that consumes mana (like intended).

[Aniva 1]

On 5/13/2017 at 6:18 AM, Summer said:

It is currently only proccing from spells with a casting time. But the fix for that is on the dev server for almost a month, it will be live with the next update! It will then proc from every spell that consumes mana (like intended).

sweet

[Storfan 24]

On 2017-05-13 at 3:18 PM, Summer said:

It is currently only proccing from spells with a casting time. But the fix for that is on the dev server for almost a month, it will be live with the next update! It will then proc from every spell that consumes mana (like intended).

Does this mean it will proc from druid rejuvination? (The initial cast, not the ticks)?

[Summer 26]

it should -> https://github.com/elysium-project/server/pull/479

[Undertanker 88]

Yeah I banked it on my alt druid as I usually assign myself to raid healing, and being NS specced I was getting nearly 33% value.

As I usually anticipate damage on raid and low rank regrowth + Max rank rejuv and use NS on tanks to counter spike damage.  I don't often just spam R3/R4 healing touch unless the incoming damage is more direct and raid damage is minimal.

[Xadaver_pve 0]

It already procs on renew and always has, I believe rejuv is the exception to this.

[Roxy 8]

4 hours ago, Xadaver_pve said:

It already procs on renew and always has, I believe rejuv is the exception to this.

That must have been a recent fix? I did close to 500 renews in my test a month ago, and didnt get a single proc.

Do your proc from the initial cast or renew ticks?

It did not proc from dispells either. My only instant cast that ever saw a proc was holy nova.

[Xadaver_pve 0]

4 hours ago, Roxy said:

That must have been a recent fix? I did close to 500 renews in my test a month ago, and didnt get a single proc.

Do your proc from the initial cast or renew ticks?

It did not proc from dispells either. My only instant cast that ever saw a proc was holy nova.

it has to heal something with the tick to proc, but it definitely procs from both the initial cast and ticks, not a recent change at all, had the trinket for months and it has worked this way on darrowshire

 

dispel indeed does not proc it though

[Roxy 8]

23 hours ago, Xadaver_pve said:

it has to heal something with the tick to proc, but it definitely procs from both the initial cast and ticks, not a recent change at all, had the trinket for months and it has worked this way on darrowshire

 

dispel indeed does not proc it though

Did another test just now.

200 renews (not big enough amount to get a exact procrate, but from my test results i didnt really need a bigger one)

 

200 Renews or 1000 ticks of renew

0 Procs from the initial cast

4 procs from ticks (All procs happening on the first tick of a renew)

0 procs from ticks after the first

 

Conclusion: Only the first tick of a renew has a chance to proc it and it needs to restore some health for it to proc. The procrate seems correct

So Xadaver is partly correct. (It doest seem to proc on the initial cast)

 

Now, i dunno if the trinket is supposed to proc from the remaining renew ticks, but if not, this trinket is working as intended.

Would love if anyone could provide some sources wether it's supposed to or not though.

[Mahtan 15]

12 hours ago, Roxy said:

Conclusion: Only the first tick of a renew has a chance to proc it and it needs to restore some health for it to proc. The procrate seems correct

So Xadaver is partly correct. (It doest seem to proc on the initial cast)

 

Now, i dunno if the trinket is supposed to proc from the remaining renew ticks, but if not, this trinket is working as intended.

Would love if anyone could provide some sources wether it's supposed to or not though.

It should not work that way. Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon should not proc through any Renew ticks.

Instead, it should have a 2% proc chance on any spellcast.

It should be able to proc when you cast Renew or Rejuvenation (but not through any ticks), it should be able to proc when you cast something that doesn't heal like Powerword:Shield, it should proc on dispells, on buffs (like Inner Fire), debuffs and it should be able to proc when you cast damage spells like Fireball, Frostbolt and so on. Vivenmort summed it up to the point:

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Here's a source clearly showing it proccing on a Rejuvenation. It procs again from Faerie Fire at 3:14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1zZrldAz0A&feature=youtu.be&t=5m44s

Literally just has to be coded as "hey, you broke 5 second rule mana regen rule again? chance to proc".

 

 

[Roxy 8]

25 minutes ago, Mahtan said:

It should not work that way. Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon should not proc through any Renew ticks.

Instead, it should have a 2% proc chance on any spellcast.

It should be able to proc when you cast Renew or Rejuvenation (but not through any ticks), it should be able to proc when you cast something that doesn't heal like Powerword:Shield, it should proc on dispells, on buffs (like Inner Fire), debuffs and it should be able to proc when you cast damage spells like Fireball, Frostbolt and so on. Vivenmort summed it up to the point:

 

That was what i thought as well, but it currently does not work like that, my research was on how it worked right now.

Is there a bugreport on that? think someone mentioned earlier in this thread that there was a fix up on github?

[Mahtan 15]

4 minutes ago, Roxy said:

That was what i thought as well, but it currently does not work like that, my research was on how it worked right now.

Is there a bugreport on that? think someone mentioned earlier in this thread that there was a fix up on github?

bugreport: https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/3384

fix discussion: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/issues/314

fix code: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/commit/8cff21de6dc8bbfc764df58fe5f3e508f12ce5f5

fix explanation: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/pull/479

[Roxy 8]

2 minutes ago, Mahtan said:

bugreport: https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/3384

fix discussion: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/issues/314

fix code: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/commit/8cff21de6dc8bbfc764df58fe5f3e508f12ce5f5

fix explanation: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/pull/479

Great, the bug report doesnt seem to be entirely correct, but the fix explanation is in line with my research

[Hudson 16]

That bug report is currently part of the major dev update for next week and is currently in QA: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/issues/731.

[Manaci 0]

BiS forever inc

[Storfan 24]

8 hours ago, Manaci said:

BiS forever inc

Is the patch today? 

[flowqz 34]

I'd like to know if the ace of beasts is droping on elysium or if anyone is selling it.

the ah has some ace of elementals/warlords up, so id assume it should drop or did drop for some time.