The Greatest list of Pros vs. Cons on what server to play.

[Undertanker 88]

Such is life, but playing on Old Nost creates a gap that is immensely wider at the start. Playing on a fresh server provides everyone an even footing at the start. Fresh server will quickly become more popular than the Old Nost server, if you can't see that you are probably entrenched in the Old Nost and feel some sort of angst toward the new blood that is in this community and will keep it alive. Old Nost players should really embrace the New Nost server. 

 

I am aware the gap starts greater, though you have to look at it from both ends of the spectrum.   Getting decked out on the old server will be months quicker than the new server. Example I will use is my Druid:

 

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Overhealer

 

On 3/3/2016 I was level 57.   In 1 month I had EVERY item pre-bwl except A good pair of shoulders from MC and neck from ZG.   This was with pugging and what not as well.   1 run in BWL with my guild and I would have a huge chance at walking out with at least 3 items my first run, 6+ if druid gear drops like crazy and be a few pieces select pieces away from a comparable Best in Slot toon.

 

On the fresh server while the gear cap will be smaller by the time most hit 60, the need will far exceed the supply; meaning EVERY healer is going to want so-and-so item, all 15 melee in your guild are gonna want Vis'Kags, фекал could take a year + to get them all that, while we were giving Vis'Kags and Deathbrings to tanks or we would have disenchanted them.    (a large majority of established guilds were like this)  

 

Larger guilds including mine would also host pug runs which really small guilds or groups of friends could join and get a lot of loot fast since the pug runs were really for guilds to get an extra shot at Bindings/Accuria/Eye in MC and DFT in BWL.    I brought tanks that were in half green gear, in two weeks rolling 5/8 T1, epic shield, epic tanking ring/neck.  Many many other examples as well, these people are all of a sudden more than ready for BWL (nice filler loot in ZG to pair with that they get)

 

This is what I mean by the gear cap closes REALLY fast on an established server.   For the months AQ opening will take, you can get leveled to 60 in 1 month / 1.5 months, and have A LOT of gear before AQ opening.   The geared people will continue to run BWL/MC and won't get any gains while you will get huge gains each run when only 1 or 2 people need an item compared to 15.

Edited November 30, 2016 by Undertanker

[Undertanker 88]

Back then the difference was pretty noticeable to someone who had seen so many raggedly geared people trying their damnedest to get a few scraps of gear on their way to 60. Well now they came into dungeons that much more powerful which is great for the individual, but it makes things trivial for most who know the game inside-out.

 

I am confused with this statement as you act as if the majority of gear itemization changes benefited those leveling up and with instance loot along the way.  Only thing I can think of is Mara which the decent loot is level 49 + anyways.  Most of the itemization changes came with retarded/useless stats on Tier gear making lvl 60 5 man blues better.   Later they added additional drops to level 60 5 mans for a few gear slots once AQ was out to help people skip MC and go right into ZG/BWL.  Those said items were not out on Nost server.

 

The major changes that would have effected your leveling was the revamping to talents.    Not gear.

[Faith 5]

honestly if you're new to vanilla it isn't really that big of a deal but if you've played before it is very frustrating to raid pre DM patch since nearly everything is itemized poorly and pretty much all of the loot dropping is utter trash

I totally get that but once again.. as I've said before.. Vanilla to me .. and MMO's to me are not about rading. They are about exploration and .. yes making your character more powerful. Which, unfortunately, means raiding to some degree.. but Raiding was not the primary aspect of vanilla. Most people didn't raid in Vanilla. It's unfortunate how wow turned out because IMO even people that play on these servers prioritize raiding FAR too much. Raiding is a bad end game mechanic. 

 

One of the greatest things about black desert is all of the end game paths you can do that have absolutely nothing to do with raiding. (some people call them simulators which is a bad analagy) What I like about MMO's is the open world aspect. I want to be able to run off into the wilderness and explore and craft and kill.

 

Raiding ugh.. raiding is the downfall of any good mmo.

[Applesauce 0]

People are saying im afraid the old realm will be dead?

Over 40 guilds are coming back to the old server im not worried.

 

Also i think its you that are afraid that im right and that the fresh server is the worst option.

[Shayss 43]

Well I'm gona be playing on the fresh server?

 

I don't give a damn about this Alexenual character either. Don't you think that the retail kids and Alex fandom will just weed itself out in time?

 

I'm more than willing to say it will.

 

All that will be left is going to be vanilla players -.-

[Aslan 0]

Yeah most people quit within a few weeks/months anyway. People come, people go.

Edited November 30, 2016 by Aslan

[Wirago 8]

Oh my gosh. Guys! Calm down   

Some want a new start, others do not. That's it. Calling some people noobs because they choose the new server is complete bullsh*t. Also the thinking that the old one will be empty.

 

We all are one community. One community dedicated to vanilla WoW. Don't flame each other! Be happy that there are so many people sharing your interests and making this all even possible.

[ninten 2]

i dont really care there is gonna be more than plenty people without counting the chinese, i just can't find the sense of desire endless grinding of 1-60 MC

Are you sure you do not care? All you do on this forum is spewing out aggressive shitposts on every post that only mention the new pvp server.

Oh wait, you do care. You are terrified.

[Undertanker 88]

People are saying im afraid the old realm will be dead?

Over 40 guilds are coming back to the old server im not worried.

Also i think its you that are afraid that im right and that the fresh server is the worst option.

Over 71 confirmed and growing.

[Banezilla 2]

You're delusional if you think that all of these returning guilds will have remotely the same amount of members returning to play. Most of these guilds will not have enough members to raid 1 week after launch.

I'll be playing on the server with the highest population, that's why I started playing on Nost.

[WonderBread 4]

Over 71 confirmed and growing.

It's one thing to say we're coming back. It's another to say we're staying, and actually stay. It'll be interesting to see the domino effect happen and to what degree. All it takes is 1 friend to decide to swap over, and that infects the others.

[sojs 0]

You're delusional if you think that all of these returning guilds will have remotely the same amount of members returning to play. Most of these guilds will not have enough members to raid 1 week after launch.

I'll be playing on the server with the highest population, that's why I started playing on Nost.

id assume most have a near full roster

Edited December 1, 2016 by sojs

[Aisar87 0]

Unless you plan on hitting 60 within 5 days of launch and having MC cleared with the first two weeks, you Will never be on this imaginary playing field you mention in every post. Regardless of what server you Will be playing catch up compared to others.

I'll be playing nonstop but not concerned about exactly where the top hardcore/nolifers will be progression wise.  My statements were more generally pointing towards the fact that overall we will all be starting fresh and more on less at the same content.  Definitely not going to rush leveling, I'm going hardcore but enjoying all the content.  No point in rushing imo as I am here to enjoy all the things and relive my teenage years when I did nothing but play WoW.  I'm already set up with a great guild with good people who are itching to get playing, do dungeon runs for all the gear/keys, crafting stuff etc and raiding.

Edited December 1, 2016 by Aisar87

[Smula 0]

I dont know what the "Problem" is here...

 

Old PVP: Established Community and maybe the first to got TBC

New PVP: Fresh start experience -high populated

PVE: Between the 2 in progress maybe a more "chilled" Community

 

There is one place for everyone! No Server will "die".

When I played retail Vanilla, the Server were WAY less populated than Nost.

[Cipherr 1]

People are saying im afraid the old realm will be dead?

Over 40 guilds are coming back to the old server im not worried.

 

Also i think its you that are afraid that im right and that the fresh server is the worst option.

 

I think you would have to be extremely obtuse, or ignoring everything coming out of the private server community right now to think that the Fresh Start PvP server isn't going to be the most popular by far.

 

The first PvP server will be crashing on launch from the load, but that's because those of us waiting on the PvE and Fresh Start wont have another server to play on yet. But a month or so after the fresh start server gets going, its going to be a landslide. Fresh Start Pop > Old PvP Pop >>>>>> PvE server population.

 

I would bet anything on that.

[Hazar 3]

I will stay on old because want to go for Naxx ASAP and then to the Dark Portal I love vanilla but Burning Crusade my favourite expansion

[jhoust 0]

Have there been many private servers to progress all the way to TBC? On Nost. I was definitely looking forward to AQ and beyond.

 

I will be rolling on old PvP so when I binge and get to 60 I don't end up sitting around for months waiting for content to open. I don't understand this subset of people that seem to enjoy repeatedly waiting for the same content to open over and over. Maybe if I was suuper casual I would take that route, but these people don't sound casual (race to 60 then retire, I suppose?). When I played vanilla originally we only had to wait for content to come out once, then it was out. I enjoy my character progression, not waiting for my server to progress.

 

I'm sure fresh PvP will be fun and popular, but how many existing players are actually going to want to just hit rewind? Its population will be largely a matter of attracting fresh legacy players imho (and this group that prefers pre-DM pre-AV servers), not Nost. vets.

Edited December 1, 2016 by jhoust

[Tholren 7]

People seem to forget that there won't be months of waiting for anything on the new fresh realm. The content is ready and will be released accordingly. No way the team will make players wait another month than necessary for a new raid if most of the community is already ready to move on.

[Aslan 0]

People seem to forget that there won't be months of waiting for anything on the new fresh realm.

Thats pretty much what many of us are trying to find out for a few weeks now and the only repeated statement is that it is unclear yet. Unless you have a mysterious source to share with us (Id love if you actually did^^), it might be the same as the old nost or it might be slightly faster, but I doubt that they would allow the new server to catch up with one of the old ones.

 

If they released content at a rate which would suit the server first guilds, the server would catch up to the old ones pretty fast, therefore you will spend at least some time afk in capital cities with your shinies.

[Kazuma 11]

If you guys think you will be raiding bwl in blues. You are soo mistaken.

 

Expect months of farming Molten Core.

 

GL LUL.

 

Also server will be following patch order. Chances fresh catching up with nost pvp is nil.

Edited December 1, 2016 by Kazuma

[jhoust 0]

I just had a look at the original content release timeline:

 

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_(World_of_Warcraft)

 

 

From release it shows 4 months until Dire Maul, 7 months until battlegrounds, 8 to BWL, 10 to ZG, Naxx on Nost. would be coming out about now. That's not too bad a pace really. I definitely look forward to seeing exactly how Elysium refines that schedule for future legacy servers. I imagine everything will move forward a bit, later stuff more so.

[Tholren 7]

Thats pretty much what many of us are trying to find out for a few weeks now and the only repeated statement is that it is unclear yet. Unless you have a mysterious source to share with us (Id love if you actually did^^), it might be the same as the old nost or it might be slightly faster, but I doubt that they would allow the new server to catch up with one of the old ones.

 

If they released content at a rate which would suit the server first guilds, the server would catch up to the old ones pretty fast, therefore you will spend at least some time afk in capital cities with your shinies.

 No official source, just me throwing guesses. I'm guessing once the majority of active raiding guilds are ready to progress they will release, or they might setup a calendar that moves faster than the original timeline for Nost. No point in making it as slow, I think.

[Shayss 43]

I believe all 5 mans and BGs (- AV) was available on Nost launch. Then came DM and MC shortly after.

 

Can anyone else confirm this?

[Undertanker 88]

If you guys think you will be raiding bwl in blues. You are soo mistaken.

Expect months of farming Molten Core.

GL LUL.

Also server will be following patch order. Chances fresh catching up with nost pvp is nil.

Most 5 man blue gear is better than MC gear.

[Shayss 43]

Most 5 man blue gear is better than MC gear.