All want to play on fresh

[Jimmy 2]

I personally have no desire to play on a fresh server. I'm a grown попа man, I don't have time to level 1-60 again. I think people hit the nail on the head that a lot of people who weren't on Nost want the fresh server to "experience the magic". I personally want to go back to the server where thousands of people gathered outside capital cities as the servers were taken down for what we thought was the final time. There are 100 servers out there that are "fresh", there's only 1 Nost.

[Uncle Ganus of Clan McAnus 0]

I personally have no desire to play on a fresh server. I'm a grown попа man, I don't have time to level 1-60 again. I think people hit the nail on the head that a lot of people who weren't on Nost want the fresh server to "experience the magic". I personally want to go back to the server where thousands of people gathered outside capital cities as the servers were taken down for what we thought was the final time. There are 100 servers out there that are "fresh", there's only 1 Nost.

 

By the glow of Perenolde Tiara, I say - that's the spirit Farthalon !!

[Kazuma 11]

 

 

there's only 1 Nost.

Amen.

[Shayss 43]

Alison Rees of Scapegaming got sued in court for 88m$ and lost.

 

She also happened to make over $3m in profits...

 

I dare say there might be a slight difference between her approach to running a WOW private server and that of Nostalrius / Elysium.

[Tudi 0]

http://www.strawpoll.me/11589399/r

 

66% (10k players) vote for Fresh, 24% (3.5k players) vote for Old PVP and 10% (1.5k players) vote for Old PVE 

 

Why Elysium Staff ignore the majority ?

[Shayss 43]

Because the majority are newbies that probably come straight from retail or funservers? Will probably level to 10 and say it is too hard.

 

Then quit?

[Ellipsea 36]

They aren't ignoring the fresh realm, what they are doing is planning for it's success.  How many different ways ya need it explained fer crying out loud???

 

New reasons why the fresh realm comes out after the other realms:

 

A.  A top notch psychic was conferred with and it was foretold, in no uncertain terms, the planets would align in a fashion bestowing great fortune on the fresh realm if it came to be after the old realms.

B. Because my dog ate it.

C. Because, that's why.

D. The popcorn machine is plugged into that outlet and popcorn is higher on the priority list right now.

E. Someone has to go ahead and remove all the porn from that machine, because there ain't enough room.  It's gonna take awhile.

F. Because it's irritating the crap out of Tudi, and if nothing else, the staff luvs to troll.   : P

Edited December 5, 2016 by Ellipsea

[Tudi 0]

Because the majority are newbies that probably come straight from retail or funservers? Will probably level to 10 and say it is too hard.

 

Then quit?

Well that's not 100% true many guilds from old pvp joins to the fresh this is way are so many yes will be newbies too but that's not the reason this pull have 10k vote for fresh realm.

[Undertanker 88]

 

http://www.strawpoll.me/11589399/r

 

66% (10k players) vote for Fresh, 24% (3.5k players) vote for Old PVP and 10% (1.5k players) vote for Old PVE 

 

Why Elysium Staff ignore the majority ?

 

It isn't ignoring the majority (which you are not), it isn't ignoring the loud minority (which you are).    130K concurrent/active players when Nost got shut down.    Why are there not WAY over 130k total votes?!!!! (previous players + all the new people like yourself).    Because the poll will only show the preferences of the people who completed it, not the masses.

 

There is no "control demographic" for the survey, meaning isn't a purposeful even split of new people, old nost people, old nost people with фекал toons, old nost people with great toons taking the survey (I didn't answer it myself).    By this point we know the primary demographic of the survey because the ones who take it, find some reason to link it while фекал talking the admins or the decisions that have been made for the established community that made Nost what it was.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Undertanker

[Zappa 7]

Because the majority are newbies that probably come straight from retail or funservers? Will probably level to 10 and say it is too hard.

 

Then quit?

 

Exactly this!

[Jimmy 2]

http://www.strawpoll.me/11589399/r

 

66% (10k players) vote for Fresh, 24% (3.5k players) vote for Old PVP and 10% (1.5k players) vote for Old PVE 

 

Why Elysium Staff ignore the majority ?

 

http://i.imgur.com/jxtOQlu.jpg

 

See that thing that says 130,000 active accounts? There's your majority.

[Tudi 0]

http://i.imgur.com/jxtOQlu.jpg

 

See that thing that says 130,000 active accounts? There's your majority.

 

1. you know most of this people will never come back.

2. 130.000 but you dont know how many are multi accounts.

3. ignore the fact many guilds from the old pvp with hundreds of players want to play on fresh realm.

4. if are more players who want to play on the old realm why you dont vote to prove it.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Tudi

[Jimmy 2]

1. you know most of this people will never come back.

2. 130.000 but you dont know how many are multi accounts.

3. ignore the fact many guilds from the old pvp with hundreds of players want to play on fresh realm.

4. if are more players how want to play on the old realm why you dont vote to prove it.

 

First of all: your 3 points are unsubstantiated and contradictory. You say that most of the people will never come back then talk about all these people coming back to play on the fresh server. As to your 4th point I don't need to vote in a stupid strawpoll that means absolutely nothing to prove it, I have the fact that the staff has decided to launch the Nost realms first, and I tend to think they know a little bit more about running a server than you do.

 

But yeah, let's ignore 54 centuries of play time because you want a fresh server.

 

And come on, if you want to brag about internet speeds at least come correct ;-) http://imgur.com/a/sQQHu

Edited December 5, 2016 by Falorthan

[Enhancement 12]

For me it's been too long. I can't jump back onto my old characters. They are dead and buried. I'm ready for a new adventure. Thus, I eagerly await the fresh realm.

[Kilros 2]

http://www.strawpoll.me/11589399/r

 

66% (10k players) vote for Fresh, 24% (3.5k players) vote for Old PVP and 10% (1.5k players) vote for Old PVE 

 

Why Elysium Staff ignore the majority ?

 

Yeah, and according to straw polls, Trump was supposed to lose the election!  

 

My point is, those straw polls account for about 15k players....

.....yesterday there were FORTY THOUSAND people who signed up for the stress test alone.

 

Regardless of what you "fresh realm boners" like to claim, there is still a very large demand for the old server, and i'd like to see the server percentages once both Old and Fresh are established communities.  I think it will be much closer than you think.  Why?

 

-Some people are going to roll toons starting the 17th, and even if they initially have no desire to stay, they get sucked into their toon and guilds, and continue playing on the old server.

 

-People who are going back to old nost don't give 2 shits about "straw polls"...or care to bother with them.

 

-The majority of people who play Fresh will be players who were nowhere near established on old Nost.  And for that I cannot blame them.  However, a very large percentage of that server is established, and there are a boat load of people who would like to see content beyond MC/Onyxia/BWL... There is still A LOT of work to be done on Old Nost to those who aspire for Naxx.  According to the original vanilla timeline, old nost wasn't even half progressed yet.  I repeat, there are a BOAT LOAD of people who have absolutely no desire in starting all over again.

 

 

At the end of the day, both servers should host a very supple population with all of the benefits and disadvantages of a highly populated server. 

 

 

The End.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Kilros

[Kilros 2]

ohh lord people are still clinging to that straw poll on reddit for an accurate representation of the audience? the stupidity is real.

 

Reddit also generally hated Nostalrius when it was live.....so if that's any indication of the demographic of people voting in those straw polls

[Undertanker 88]

ohh lord people are still clinging to that straw poll on reddit for an accurate representation of the audience? the stupidity is real.

 

Yeah I know.   What would happen if a poll was made "do men find curvy women attractive".

 

A huge majority of the people voting yes on that would be HUGE women that classify themselves as "curvy".    Then when some guy is like, actually I prefer an athletic/sporty type woman, the huge woman would throw the poll in your face and call you a "privileged minority".

[Docholy 4]

This is getting intense.  The server is coming, what's the problem?  The project was intended to bring back Nost 2.0 and the devs also threw a bone in later for a fresh server. The devs probably put in all their time well before they considered a fresh server. Its coming man, its coming. 

[Kazuma 11]

Palms are sweaty, knees weak..

 

The anxiety! its coming boys..

 

See you all on Nostalrius PvP.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Kazuma

[gotmilk0112 10]

http://www.strawpoll.me/11589399/r

 

66% (10k players) vote for Fresh, 24% (3.5k players) vote for Old PVP and 10% (1.5k players) vote for Old PVE 

 

Why Elysium Staff ignore the majority ?

I fail to see how releasing a fresh server 2-3 weeks later is "ignoring" people.

 

But go ahead, do whatever mental gymnastics you have to, in order to play the victim card and proclaim that you're being oppressed by people who are spending their free time to give you a good service for free.

 

 

nost wasnt shut down by blizzard. why is this misconception so prevalent?

Blizzard threatened legal action and Nost shut themselves down so they wouldn't get sued into oblivion.

 

Just like how a person getting mugged is going to give up his money so that he doesn't get shot dead.

 

Blizz didn't "shut down" the servers themselves, they just threatened legal action if the servers did not shut down.

Edited December 6, 2016 by gotmilk0112

[killerduki 54]

At the end of the day , all servers will have "full population" capped regardless how many voters shown on polls or not.

 

Majority of Voters are indeed loudest thru Forums,Discord,Streams etc.

 

But the fact is 10k People , this is not 1000 or 10 people voting.

 

Does it mean that huge amount want fresh server ? Yes.

Does it mean that those who will left to stay in old servers will be affected or reduced by that number?  No.

 

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Nakeza 0]

They aren't ignoring the fresh realm, what they are doing is planning for it's success.  How many different ways ya need it explained fer crying out loud???

 

New reasons why the fresh realm comes out after the other realms:

 

A.  A top notch psychic was conferred with and it was foretold, in no uncertain terms, the planets would align in a fashion bestowing great fortune on the fresh realm if it came to be after the old realms.

B. Because my dog ate it.

C. Because, that's why.

D. The popcorn machine is plugged into that outlet and popcorn is higher on the priority list right now.

E. Someone has to go ahead and remove all the porn from that machine, because there ain't enough room.  It's gonna take awhile.

F. Because it's irritating the crap out of Tudi, and if nothing else, the staff luvs to troll.   : P

^

 

prolly' its B. 

[dahlblom 4]

For me it's been too long. I can't jump back onto my old characters. They are dead and buried. I'm ready for a new adventure. Thus, I eagerly await the fresh realm.

 

Precisely. Coming back to the old characters and starting from there is no more fun.

[Smula 0]

 

Yeah, probably. There's no point in spending time and effort 'cause we'll get closed anyway. I thought they were gonna place the new server in Russia, but they kept it in France for some reason.

 

I saw a stream of a former Nost-Team Member who said, that the Server is probably in france, but the owner  are now in Russia. 

The host in france and will not close the server, until the Owner ask him to do so. Further he said the Host will forward all legal issues to the Owner.

By Owner I mean the person who rent the server.

So the possibility is not that high that they can take legal action in russia, against the Elysium-team.

BUT take all this with a grain of salt, becaus these are just rumors AND I am not a lawyer

 

Source:

Here is the reddit post, that link to the stream, where he stated thos things.

I guess he said, it´s just his speculation

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nostalrius/comments/5fmcja/previous_nost_core_team_member_starting_a_stream/

Edited December 6, 2016 by Smula

[dezmo 0]

Hi all! I don't quite understand why so many people want to play on fresh realm.

Most of the players that will play here they already have characters on Nostalrius. Also all existing Elysium characters will be moved to Nostalrius realm. I've read Nost forums and there all were so glad that Nost DB will be used in Elysium and that they will not lose their characters. So why many people don't want to just continue to play in good old Nostalrius realm like nothing changed?

I played on Elysium 3 months ago because it was new and not so overpopulated like K2 and Nost. Now they transfering our Elysium characters on a server where they are almost on the AQ Event. Now we have to start over again on a sever where evrybody is lvl60 and probably well geared already,thats why I will restart on the new sever, All players from the Elysium sever from bevor the announcement should be able to tranfer on the new Server instead of the worn out server ,or at least be able to start few days earlier.