Gehere 8 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Hello, i've so many question about Multiboxing. Source : [/size]https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=21966&hl=multiboxing source : https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=21582&hl=multiboxing#entry233978 1) I've ask on discord : If I play with my wife (2 accounts and 2 computers). Can you ban me ? And Suzerain says "no" But I've another questions 2) If I need to go to MC and I'm not at home, my wife take my char and my char follow ... Can you ban me for this ? (a) if it's 2 accounts on ONE computer ... b)and same question for 2 accounts 2 compters ... the difference with the 1st question is the FOLLOW in this case) 3) If I need to farm mob for a reputation and my char sux (it's an healer) so I log my wife's char and I follow her ... same question (on 1 computer and 2 computers) 4) If play my main on MC (raid so) and we have to wait because wype or anything ... Can I make a new char for past the time ? (the pb here it's not follow and not the same localisation, but same computer) 5) So I need to know if the "follow" was the problem or if it's multi account or or ... I'm lost (If and end if you say 1 account for 1 compter and you can or can't follow you answer for all) I don't understand the limit ... Suzerain says it's program, but when I read the first quote it's multiaccount ... I'd worry about a completely different issue. Account Sharing. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drain 19 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 Elysium seems to have copy/pasted the same rules over from Nost, so it'll be the same deal as before. Basically just boxing in towns or cities for a water vendor and enchants. This is what I always used my Mage for. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenzig 34 Report post Posted December 13, 2016 So what if I played an account I created and then had my "brother" on follow but he popped his head through the window every few minutes to say hello? Or what if I allowed my sisters friends uncles brother follow my mothers brothers 2nd cousin? is that allowed? I'm saying......yes. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skullstoon 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Well I've seen plenty of questions on this thread along with the usual sarcastic comments from people saying it's just people trying to get around rules, I've seen threads saying to ban players on same IP's blah blah blah obviously they have never had girlfriends or boyfriends, wives etc that played the same game in the same house before or they would know that asking for a same IP ban is just a tad overdramatic as a solution.My wife and I have played this game for years, we've levelled together many times and tend to play either complementing classes or the same classes as it helps with class quests and suchlike. From the attitude on here it sounds like pretty much as soon as we start playing were going to get reported by people who don't believe we are two people or are just out to accuse people regardless especially if they always see the same toons in game together and I'm thinking I'm going to just end up spending half my time justifying why me and the wife are playing two warlocks (our two transferred PVE toons) or whatever else we play together simply cause she's a lazy sod half the time when were walking half way round the game world for some fed ex quest and she follows me and while I can stop her doing that it's not going to stop the accusations for the other reasons I mentioned. I was looking forward to being able to play on a PVE server with the wife again (she prefers not getting ganked all over the place and she doesn't do PvP) but now after reading this thread I'm thinking it's not going to be worth the hassle of dealing with the same accusations all the time. It wasn't a problem on other servers due to alt tabbing or proper multiboxing etc being allowed so no one gave a crap about two toons levelling/playing together.Can some admin/GM reassure me that I'm not going to be wasting my time playing on this server for these reasons. Thank You. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotmilk0112 10 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) as soon as we start playing were going to get reported by people As long as you're not using /follow on each other, nobody is going to report you. GMs do not blindly ban people for having multiple connections from the same IP. That's retarded. Edited December 14, 2016 by gotmilk0112 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Ganus of Clan McAnus 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 My wife and I have played this game for years, we've levelled together many times and tend to play either complementing classes or the same classes as it helps with class quests and suchlike. I was looking forward to being able to play on a PVE server with the wife again (she prefers not getting ganked all over the place and she doesn't do PvP) but now after reading this thread I'm thinking it's not going to be worth the hassle of dealing with the same accusations all the time. It wasn't a problem on other servers due to alt tabbing or proper multiboxing etc being allowed so no one gave a crap about two toons levelling/playing together. By the beaten corpse of Olgra, I say !! What's the name of your wife ? If you get banned I promise I'll take care of her all the way through the leveling process on PvP !!! We'll even farm Ironspine until he drops his ribcage for her, just don't go spineless on us !!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gehere 8 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Well I've seen plenty of questions on this thread along with the usual sarcastic comments from people saying it's just people trying to get around rules, I've seen threads saying to ban players on same IP's blah blah blah obviously they have never had girlfriends or boyfriends, wives etc that played the same game in the same house before or they would know that asking for a same IP ban is just a tad overdramatic as a solution. My wife and I have played this game for years, we've levelled together many times and tend to play either complementing classes or the same classes as it helps with class quests and suchlike. From the attitude on here it sounds like pretty much as soon as we start playing were going to get reported by people who don't believe we are two people or are just out to accuse people regardless especially if they always see the same toons in game together and I'm thinking I'm going to just end up spending half my time justifying why me and the wife are playing two warlocks (our two transferred PVE toons) or whatever else we play together simply cause she's a lazy sod half the time when were walking half way round the game world for some fed ex quest and she follows me and while I can stop her doing that it's not going to stop the accusations for the other reasons I mentioned. I was looking forward to being able to play on a PVE server with the wife again (she prefers not getting ganked all over the place and she doesn't do PvP) but now after reading this thread I'm thinking it's not going to be worth the hassle of dealing with the same accusations all the time. It wasn't a problem on other servers due to alt tabbing or proper multiboxing etc being allowed so no one gave a crap about two toons levelling/playing together. Can some admin/GM reassure me that I'm not going to be wasting my time playing on this server for these reasons. Thank You. Simply don't use /follow. It is that simple. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironskillet2 2 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 why are there so many questions lol the only kind of multiboxing allowed (max of 2 accounts on 1 computer) is as follows. 1 account plays. 2nd account stays permanently in a city. the ONLY interaction these 2 accounts can have is for trading purposes for items, gold, enchanting, portals, etc. if you are not doing this... it is not allowed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Budskah 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 So what if I played an account I created and then had my "brother" on follow but he popped his head through the window every few minutes to say hello? Or what if I allowed my sisters friends uncles brother follow my mothers brothers 2nd cousin? is that allowed? I think as long as your mothers brothers 2nd cousin doesn't know your password you should be fine brah! I have my best mates mums prize goat doing the running around for me and when he is out grazing and stuff I'll just have my aunties cats mouse friend run across the key board. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danko 1 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Thanks for the link guess ill have to go back to legion. Relax, dont be afraid of other people, i dont bite. Promise. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nvnz 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 why are there so many questions lol the only kind of multiboxing allowed (max of 2 accounts on 1 computer) is as follows. 1 account plays. 2nd account stays permanently in a city. the ONLY interaction these 2 accounts can have is for trading purposes for items, gold, enchanting, portals, etc. if you are not doing this... it is not allowed. Think you should edit this lad. https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=21966 VII. Multiboxing Multiboxing is not allowed and refers to playing multiple characters simultaneously. Whether this is done via 3rd party software, alt-tabbing between instances, or by running multiple machines, does not matter. The only exception is that you may have up to two characters in the same major or goblin city temporarily, for trading, crafting, conjuring and portalling purposes. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironskillet2 2 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 you pretty much posted what i said lol.. the only difference being the enchanting part, and on a single computer. but still MOST questions are asking whether you can have 2 characters doing the same thing out in the world which is obviously no considering the info that is already given. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haestingas 30 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Keep in mind husband/wife that even if they suspect that you are multiboxing, they will not ban until they test you both to make sure that it's 2 separate people. In the past what they did was teleport you both to gm island and have you both run in different patterns at the same time. Very simple if you are two different people, almost impossible if it's one person. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skullstoon 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Simply don't use /follow. It is that simple. This seems to be the best advice I've seen to avoid my scenario being an issue, Thanks. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trym 1 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 I see that you are allowed to alt-tab between accounts in capital citis. How about mooncloth crafting for Horde? We got no Moonwell in any capital city. It will take about 20 min to do it individually if you have 4 charracters going from Orgrimmar. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undertanker 88 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 I see that you are allowed to alt-tab between accounts in capital citis. How about mooncloth crafting for Horde? We got no Moonwell in any capital city. It will take about 20 min to do it individually if you have 4 charracters going from Orgrimmar. The price you pay for better racials. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteCheddar 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) So a lot of people did this in Final Fantasy 11 regarding multiboxing loop holes; asking about logging characters out at certain spawn locations for gathering nodes/herbs and just switching between them, not sure if this would have as big of an impact here on WoW. Just curious about any rules regarding this Edited December 15, 2016 by WhiteCheddar 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pmizz 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 So a lot of people did this in Final Fantasy 11 regarding multiboxing loop holes; asking about logging characters out at certain spawn locations for gathering nodes/herbs and just switching between them, not sure if this would have as big of an impact here on WoW. Just curious about any rules regarding this It's bannable because then a person would make 10 accounts and destroy the herbs! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aslan 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 The price you pay for better racials.Sword skill please. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sshampoo 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 If i have me playing and my wife and my son, from same IP I should be banned? that's stupid. But as far Multiboxing, I don't think I mind at all, why? because I used to multibox in retail. No! I did not participated in any form of World pvp or AV Battle grounds. I simply ran into dungeons, it's not easy, trust me. A lot of people say it's not fair. I get it. I think 5 accounts from same IP should be allowed, you can't go into BG's as multiboxer or participate in any world pvp, done. Let them quest, let them run dungeons by themselfs, who cares, some people say oh they can steal the herb's,nodes, etc. take over the bank, You think guilds don't do that? camp the spots, run with entire guild pack to kill lowbies? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fapmonsoon 14 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 I hate that I am even asking this, because so many people have said close to it and I am in no way trying to circumvent the multiboxing process. My wife plays on another server currently and I am working on getting her to come over here. I understand long periods of follow = multiboxing, period. If I run from IF to SW and have someone on the same IP following me I would expect to get banned. However, what about quick drink or bio breaks (or even to get something for our kids) where it is like 1-2 mins tops? That seems extreme to ban for that just because one was on follow. I am not even sure if she will agree to level another char so this might not ever even be an issue to me, but I wanted to ask if there is a fail safe other then "stop everything when one has to go for a minute just because its the same IP". 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sshampoo 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 I hate that I am even asking this, because so many people have said close to it and I am in no way trying to circumvent the multiboxing process. My wife plays on another server currently and I am working on getting her to come over here. I understand long periods of follow = multiboxing, period. If I run from IF to SW and have someone on the same IP following me I would expect to get banned. However, what about quick drink or bio breaks (or even to get something for our kids) where it is like 1-2 mins tops? That seems extreme to ban for that just because one was on follow. I am not even sure if she will agree to level another char so this might not ever even be an issue to me, but I wanted to ask if there is a fail safe other then "stop everything when one has to go for a minute just because its the same IP". yep, I went over the rules. And now I'm not sure what to do. We need to play at different time? when we come from work we wanna play together, as a team. We both played retail Vanilla, we both unsubed from retail wow long time ago. * Do to: not enough time IRL * to pay 30 dollars a month. It will take us light years to hit 60 probably, Why do they have follow at all enabled? take it out. problem solved. I all ready told our son he's not allowed to play. My wife pretty much follows me all the time. either she needs to cook dinner after work, like you said, bathroom, take care of the son, etc, vice versa, So at least 2 accounts per IP should be allowed. OR maybe i should tell her to stay in ORG and craft. because shes not allowed to leave org. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ismeckye 7 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) why are there so many questions lol the only kind of multiboxing allowed (max of 2 accounts on 1 computer) is as follows. 1 account plays. 2nd account stays permanently in a city. the ONLY interaction these 2 accounts can have is for trading purposes for items, gold, enchanting, portals, etc. if you are not doing this... it is not allowed. Thing is, you WILL get banned when one character is playing in the open world and one is staying in the major city AHing. So giving this misleading answer might get people banned. It's ONLY allowed to have two character SIMULTANEOUSLY at the SAME city/goblin town. This is crucial. Everything else is multiboxing as a bannable offense. If i have me playing and my wife and my son, from same IP I should be banned? that's stupid. But as far Multiboxing, I don't think I mind at all, why? because I used to multibox in retail. No! I did not participated in any form of World pvp or AV Battle grounds. I simply ran into dungeons, it's not easy, trust me. A lot of people say it's not fair. I get it. I think 5 accounts from same IP should be allowed, you can't go into BG's as multiboxer or participate in any world pvp, done. Let them quest, let them run dungeons by themselfs, who cares, some people say oh they can steal the herb's,nodes, etc. take over the bank, You think guilds don't do that? camp the spots, run with entire guild pack to kill lowbies? Except that a guild needs to have... different people like in a MMO. "Why do they have follow at all enabled? take it out. problem solved. I all ready told our son he's not allowed to play. My wife pretty much follows me all the time. either she needs to cook dinner after work, like you said, bathroom, take care of the son, etc, vice versa, So at least 2 accounts per IP should be allowed. OR maybe i should tell her to stay in ORG and craft. because shes not allowed to leave org." Playing together with two or three people logged in at the same time is no problem. She leeching EXP while doing something else will be. From the Nostalrius point of view botting is EVERYTHING that's not the person sitting in front of the PC playing. So using some sort of mechanical device to repeat a certain action is considered as much botting as having a program installed. So she would: account share/probably bot/multibox. And you would: account share/multibox. You both will get banned. Maybe only one person. Edited December 21, 2016 by ismeckye 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sshampoo 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Thing is, you WILL get banned when one character is playing in the open world and one is staying in the major city AHing. So giving this misleading answer might get people banned. It's ONLY allowed to have two character SIMULTANEOUSLY at the SAME city/goblin town. This is crucial. Everything else is multiboxing as a bannable offense. Except that a guild needs to have... different people like in a MMO. "Why do they have follow at all enabled? take it out. problem solved. I all ready told our son he's not allowed to play. My wife pretty much follows me all the time. either she needs to cook dinner after work, like you said, bathroom, take care of the son, etc, vice versa, So at least 2 accounts per IP should be allowed. OR maybe i should tell her to stay in ORG and craft. because shes not allowed to leave org." Playing together with two or three people logged in at the same time is no problem. She leeching EXP while doing something else will be. From the Nostalrius point of view botting is EVERYTHING that's not the person sitting in front of the PC playing. So using some sort of mechanical device to repeat a certain action is considered as much botting as having a program installed. So she would: account share/probably bot/multibox. And you would: account share/multibox. You both will get banned. Maybe only one person. got it. I went a bit off topic and confused people. if you dont use any multiboxing software, we allowed to play together. I guess we just dont use follow on each other or people may report us, for no stupid reason. Edited December 21, 2016 by sshampoo 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hjirsten 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 1 account plays. 2nd account stays permanently in a city. Any GM to confirm this? Rules state: The only exception is that you may have up to two characters in the same major or goblin city temporarily, for trading, crafting, conjuring and portalling purposes. Makes me wonder if you can even have a character "idle" in capital, while playing the other?? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites