Don't roll a Warrior...

[(TheReal) Krom 7]

... if you are first time Vanilla player or don't know what ur doin.

Otherwise your Vanilla WOW experience will have in common with Dark Souls ! 

 

Warrior may seem a rather appealing class, wich will lot of the time be over-represented in a population realm. 

But a lot of beginners or Warriors newbies - me included - may feel betrayed in the end with their toon and invested game-time.

 

Better safe than sorry, I will present quickly there the big pros and cons of the Vanilla Warrior Class.

 

WARRIOR CONS (80% of your experience, bad gear) :

 

- Hard levelling time (only 1vs1 mobs and some may kill u, then wait the eating regen)

- No survivability, all health point is lost to death

- No way to grind money

- High repair costs

- PVP to PVE or PVE to PVP ? Respec $$ (also mean to farm 2 sets)

- No real PVE Tier sets unless for Tanks, so most War raid gear will just feed your Tanks

- Worst solo PVP (can kill other Warriors and roflstomp bad Rogues)

- PVP need epic weapon wich need PVE raids wich need wanting to roll and compete for 2H in dual wield spec = GG

- Clunky and noob unfriendly gameplay (may be subjective)

- Paladin or Frost mage ? Most of the time you better AFK

- ...

 

WARRIOR PROS (20% of your experience, good gear) :

 

- most BADASS looking gear, weapons and sets

- Epic gear and pocket healer / premade = godlike. 2H Sword spec. Mortal Strike. Might feel powerful every 30 min with "I win" CD.

- rewarding, difficulty feeling

- excellent gear scaling

- dem ccrits on noob rogues. (Rogue being always overpopulated and rather noob friendly being a plus)

 

CONCLUSION : In the end, don't roll a Warrior if you're mostly a solo PVP player, aren't very social, are looking for an easy experience or don't have a lot of gaming time.

 

Warrior need a real big invest of skill and playing time to shine, but persevere and in the very end of the day you'll be a force to be reckoned, in both PVP and PVE environnements.

 

If you're still ready to going in, I let you explore topics of gamers with more knowledge on the matter. 

 

Not really being a Crybaby there...

But I know for granted some people WILL a year from now see this thread and just wish they have been before ! 

 

Roast me for I spoke the Truth.

You've been warned... Good luck !

 

 

 

/Discuss

Edited December 5, 2016 by (TheReal) Krom

[gotmilk0112 10]

Warriors may be the hardest/slowest to level solo, but it's not like it's impossible. I'd argue that Paladins are more annoying to level, because of having to fck around with seals and judgements and having absolute sh!t DPS until you get 5/5 Reckoning at 34. It's not that the class is hard to play, it's just the most gear-dependent class in the game, so naturally it's going to feel like it's the worst at leveling, because you don't really get much gear while leveling. (Unless you're rich and can deck yourself out in blues)

 

Just as a test, I tried leveling a Warrior with absolutely no external money assistance, and found it not too difficult. The trick to leveling Warrior is to always fight mobs that are lower level than you, and do quests that are below your level. As long as you're fighting mobs that are 2-4 levels below you, you'll do perfectly fine and won't have to eat/bandage after every pull. I often found that I could go 3-4 mobs without having to bandage, or if the mobs were 4-5 levels below me, I could easily knock over 8-10 of them before having to heal up.

 

Even without extra gold from other characters, I was able to get to 15g by level 18, by selling Swiftthistle. (herbed from Mageroyal / Briarthorn) With this, I bought a blue 2h axe off the AH for 5g, and sh!t dies really easily. With Alchemy as well, you can make lots of potions for yourself, so fighting 2 mobs isn't a problem because you've always got a supply of potions to use, plus elixirs which are like having extra pieces of green gear. +4 str elixir, hp/5 elixir, armor elixir, +27 max health elixir, really nice at low levels and super easy to craft with just the herbs you find.

 

I actually found this much easier than when I leveled a warrior on Nost. When I leveled a warrior there, it frustrated and pissed me off, how slow it was killing things. I suppose now I'm just expecting it, so the relatively slow killing doesn't surprise me as much. Even then, "slow" is relative, because I'm still killing equal level mobs in 15-20 seconds, which isn't that much slower than other classes.

 

For the most part, there are three main keys to making your life easier as a leveling Warrior:

 

-Always use a blue weapon if possible, keep upgrading your weapon as often as you feasibly can; at lower levels just get the highest DPS 2hander, once you get Mortal Strike at 40, go for slower stuff

-Always fight mobs that are at least 1 level lower than you

-Keep a stock of potions and bandages so that you don't have to sit and eat as often

 

Also, another pro of leveling Warrior, is that tanks are the most sought-after group member for 5mans, so you can get easy groups. Just throw on a 1h+shield, pop into D stance, and you're good to go.

Edited December 5, 2016 by gotmilk0112

[Zappa 7]

I rolled a warrior to 60 too and i have to say:

 

All that you said is true! 

[Rageward 0]

I disagree with some of this post , Yes a warrior has a semi hard time leveling but overall is rather painless atleast from my experience , "no way of making money" - DM east farm HELLO ? , no survivability - Except for Plate and all the armour we get from this , demo shout  , bandage every minute its op as вау dont know where you got "no survivability from" , High repair cost yes if you die like a pleb all the time , Pve - PvP respec - I played fury 2 hander during my pvp voyage yes mortal strike is far superior but you can still burn down the alliance / horde with crazy big BRE bloodthirst crits ! , Solo pvp is quite terrible as a warrior I dont disagree with this , epic weapon for pvp yes although everyone has to start somewhere , biggener tiers do not favour dps warriors , but AQ 2.5 dps gear is crazy sick for warriors but ultimatley there arent many tiers.

[(TheReal) Krom 7]

I played a Tauren Warrior for all the Nostalrius life, got Rank 10 Zin'Rock and Engineer, First Aid at maxskill. With couple Free action pots, played premade and this is my feeling   

You're not totally wrong, good players turn the Class at their advantage. Overall the point is more that, Warrior isn't a noob nor casual class.

 

To be as effective you need WAY MORE investments, in all gear, skill, PVE, PVP and money wise. Still, Warrior was by far the most played class on Nost, and sometimes the crying was massive.

[Voodoom 0]

Rolling a Warrior :

- VERY easy to gear while leveling as you have instant groups and are the only mail user

- two-shot every cloth / leather class at lvl 30 if you get the Axe from the Warrior quest

- very satisfying tanking feel imo

- destroy greykilling rogues with Retaliation / 2H combo

- destroy rogues with Overpower crits when they use Evasion

 

It's pretty easy to win any WPvP encounter if you engage with a charge.

If you keep getting the best items for your level (you should do it as it's so easy to find groups) you will be a real threat in PvP and only fear hard counters like frost mages or filthy hunters.

 

It comes from my experience leveling a Warrior 1 - 60 on Nost PvP.

Warrior is very decent at solo PvP if you know what you are doing.

 

This tends to be less true as you reach lvl 60 tho.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Voodoom

[SpottedCow 2]

I mean, I agree that choosing a warrior for your first toon is a bad idea.  I think you over-stress the down sides, but it's definitely one of the most difficult classes to level to 60.  The people saying "oh, it's easy if you just fight things lower level than you!" are missing the point that other classes aren't gimped like that.  Yeah, you can level to 60, but your /played is going to be pretty high when you get there.  I wasn't exactly rushing for 60 on my warrior, but I wasn't standing around IF all day jerking off either and I think I was around 12 days played when I hit 60.  300 man hours of play time to level cap is nothing to sneeze at.  It was 7 days played to hit 60 with my mage.  Especially if you're not familiar with vanilla WoW, a warrior is going to take you at least twice as long to level as a hunter and at least half again as long as a mage or warlock.

 

They are incredibly gear dependent, and if you're not taking the right professions (or if you're rolling on the fresh start server, where no one is going to have enough money to be buying gathering mats off the AH for the first 2 months), you're going to have a very rough time.  Now, if you've got a group of people leveling with you, then sure, you can leech off of them for quests and grinding and play pocket tank for 5 mans, but again, we're talking about first time out, which means you probably don't have a huge support network.  That means no Whirlwind Axe right at level 30 (one, because you can't get the mats for the quest and two, because you don't have anyone to kill Cyclonian).  Whirlwind Axe is still good until about 45 (if you're a human, the 2h sword from Archaedes in Ulda is an upgrade, otherwise, Gatorbite Axe from inner Mara), but not having it for your 30's is going to make that slow and miserable.  Especially if you're on a PvP server where you're an easy target for any gankers.

Because you're going to be stuck grinding out mobs and quests lower level than yourself, you're also making less money from gray items as you level, which contributes to the gear problem.  Oh, and those pre-raid BiS tank pieces for 60?  Two to three times more expensive than BiS BoE's for other classes.  Not sure why, as there aren't actually that many raiding tanks out there, at least not compared to other roles, but perhaps it's because a guild is far less likely to take a tank in half-assed gear than a dps or healer that looks equally shabby.

[Wirago 8]

Reading though those posts make want to reconsider if I really want to start with my warrior on the fresh realm   
 

Well... when I think back, I reached lvl 60 as holy paladin because I didn't know there was the possibility to respecc ^^

[SpottedCow 2]

Reading though those posts make want to reconsider if I really want to start with my warrior on the fresh realm   

 

Well... when I think back, I reached lvl 60 as holy paladin because I didn't know there was the possibility to respecc ^^

Honest suggestion to you, start with a mage, then level the warrior.  When DM opens up, mage farm becomes pretty insane and you can fund your warrior with the money you've made from the mage (not to mention you'll have made friends that you can get to do cyclonian for you at 30 or 31).  A mage with skinning and herbalism can make pretty crazy amounts of money even before DM opens up, as you can aoe farm skinnables in Feralas or Un'goro and collect decent herbs while doing it.  Then, you hit 60 and you've already got 800-1k gold ready for Medallion/Pauldrons/Boots, etc.

[Apone 0]

this seems all on point. I lvl'd a warrior in vanilla. Ivled as mostly prot haha. made it so much more difficult on myself. however i had a group of soild IRL friends who helped out when they could. I havnt really played wow since wotlk. So im pretty excited to start playing again. I really dig tanking, will be rad to roll that again. but i do remember having to flip back and forth and that paying taht fee made me broke all the time!

[Undertanker 88]

If you want to be a raid tank, roll warrior first and fight through the struggles.    Those spots in raid are filled up quickly with low turnover rate.   You won't need much gold at the start, granted like stated above some of the BoE are very expensive, but you don't need them.

 

Consumables do become expensive, make a mage alt, and by the time more raids are released you'll have that mage to 60 as well for farming gold for your tank consumables.

 

I farmed on my tank just fine - no everything farmed and wanted on the AH is from high level mobs.

[Destron 2]

But all the guides say I will be top rank top dps top PvP!

[Wirago 8]

But all the guides say I will be top rank top dps top PvP!

...with proper gear...

[gotmilk0112 10]

Yeah, that's how Warrior goes.

 

With фекал gear, you're фекал. With godlike gear, you're godlike.

 

You are only as strong as your gear, for the most part.

[cowking 5]

reckoning paladin is fun to hunt healers with huehue

[Voodoom 0]

Yeah, that's how Warrior goes.

 

With фекал gear, you're фекал. With godlike gear, you're godlike.

 

You are only as strong as your gear, for the most part.

That's why if you tank dungeons you can level very easily.

You can make instant groups with no gear competition for mail / plate and even weapons.

[gotmilk0112 10]

Yep, you just advertise "LF Heals/DPS" and pick up only non-mail classes (so, no paladins/warriors pretty much) and have 0 competition for gear and 2h weapons.

[Undertanker 88]

That's why if you tank dungeons you can level very easily.

You can make instant groups with no gear competition for mail / plate and even weapons.

Leveling in instances is slow as he'll, but yes you are right in getting easy groups.

[Storfan 24]

Dont roll warrior. I wanna be the speial snowflake that I am!

[Wirago 8]

Dont roll warrior. I wanna be the speial snowflake that I am!

 

That was my plan! I wanted to be the only warrior on the realm

[gotmilk0112 10]

Leveling in instances is slow as he'll, but yes you are right in getting easy groups.

If you're not concerned with leveling speed though, running instances is a good idea because you can get plenty of blue gear to help you while questing.

 

Personally, I'm going to run Deadmines until I get the 2h axe, SM:Armory until I get the shoulder and head and legs, SM:Cath until I get the shield, run Uldaman until I get Stoneslayer, etc.

[Voodoom 0]

If you're not concerned with leveling speed though, running instances is a good idea because you can get plenty of blue gear to help you while questing.

 

Personally, I'm going to run Deadmines until I get the 2h axe, SM:Armory until I get the shoulder and head and legs, SM:Cath until I get the shield, run Uldaman until I get Stoneslayer, etc.

Good luck with that, I had to run SM:Arm 17 times until I get the helm...

And I gave up on my 8th Uldaman run without any weapon on the last boss. вау this фекал.

 

But I looted Shadowfang and Pendulum of Doom on this char sooo...

[Demonthese 0]

My first character back in vanilla was a warrior that I lvled as Prot. Almost exclusively lvled in instances or the outdoor elite areas like that troll area in hinterlands.

It was definitely a ton of fun and by the time I hit 60 I was in BiS gear. You also meet alot of people and build your tank rep up at the same time which is really important of you want to main a yank.

[Undertanker 88]

Yeah that SM shield last a long time.

[Metabolomics 2]

I first rolled a warrior when TBC hit so I don't have a proper appreciation for the 1-60 grind. I also had guildies and cash from my mains to ease the pain. 

 

But this article hasn't put me off. 

 

On professions I was going BS/Miner - but mainly so I can mine for my planned Eng 29 twink Mage. But I'm rethinking that. BS I assume will slow as hell to level on the fresh server.