Why delay the fresh if we are enough players?

[Badtank 0]

Nost never had any amount of lacking for new guilds just starting MC or ZG. Fresh server chasers are a cancer on the private server community as what used to be a tiny minority has grown. Servers only get good after being established for some time. They need to time to iron out bugs and get economies set up and you people chasing new servers all the time results in heaps of half finished servers or good ones that now have no pop. If people were so hard up about fresh servers with nost it would have never got off the damn ground because it was a фекал show at release, just awful and everyone would have moved on to kronos.

Yet they didn't because the people that had played on more than one server knew no server was ever amazing right at launch and they stuck it out. New servers just cannibalize old servers, there's next to no reason for a community this small to do that to itself and yes even nost is still small compared to live MMO's like retail wow or FFXIV. We are more in line with something like EVE and their focus on a single server is what saved that game.

[Dralek 5]

Nost never had any amount of lacking for new guilds just starting MC or ZG. Fresh server chasers are a cancer on the private server community as what used to be a tiny minority has grown. Servers only get good after being established for some time. They need to time to iron out bugs and get economies set up and you people chasing new servers all the time results in heaps of half finished servers or good ones that now have no pop. If people were so hard up about fresh servers with nost it would have never got off the damn ground because it was a фекал show at release, just awful and everyone would have moved on to kronos.

Yet they didn't because the people that had played on more than one server knew no server was ever amazing right at launch and they stuck it out. New servers just cannibalize old servers, there's next to no reason for a community this small to do that to itself and yes even nost is still small compared to live MMO's like retail wow or FFXIV. We are more in line with something like EVE and their focus on a single server is what saved that game.

 

The reason nostalrius grew was because it provided a Vanilla experience with a progression from early patches that no other server provided. For example, emerald dream from feenix had some reputation items that came out with nax patch right from the start, same thing with kronos. They also took care of opening raids in the progressive succesion they were originally launched. The thing is nostalrius was the closest to reviving a vanilla experience, and that was the reason for its succes. People like the brand name of Nostalrius, and the way they set up their server to be the closest to ancient vanilla as possible. Thats why most people came back.

 

That is what distinguished Nostalrius from other vanilla private servers. Thats why people loved nostalrius.

Edited December 13, 2016 by Dralek

[Strahl 2]

Elysiums staff main priority is the revival of nostalrius, really now? Or is their main goal to get a large community and they are using nostalrius old db to achieve this?

hard to tell

 

this is a new project, it just makes sense to have everyone start out at the same point. at least thats what I want. PvP with bad gear, getting 5 mans going, building guilds from scratch. just some points that people like about fresh realms.

 

you used to play on a server that shut down, whoopdiedoo. now someone is throwing you a bone with the old nost db and you act like you own the whole place.

[Badtank 0]

The reason nostalrius grew was because it provided a Vanilla experience with a progression from early patches that no other server provided. For example, emerald dream from feenix had some reputation items that came out with nax patch right from the start, same thing with kronos. They also took care of opening raids in the progressive succesion they were originally launched. The thing is nostalrius was the closest to reviving a vanilla experience, and that was the reason for its succes. People like the brand name of Nostalrius, and the way they set up their server to be the closest to ancient vanilla as possible. Thats why most people came back.

 

That is what distinguished Nostalrius from other vanilla private servers. Thats why people loved nostalrius.

Lul you didn't play here when it launched did you? Yeah people rolled here because they promised a raid schedule that was better then peenix. Then failed to meet any form of their announced dates. Nost was bumping because it had been quite some time since a "decent" server had launched, it launched right before kronos stealing all their hype and it stayed big because it was simply big. People didn't like "progressive" items btw, it was awful. FIve months of Domo not dropping loot, t1 being even extra awful, full t2 not dropping even though it did in that patch, HoJ being in the wrong place, literally no spell hit in the game, and rag having like six items on his loot table. People just stuck around because kronos wasn't any better even though it was newer. Every single server has done "progressive" raids since ваууing feenix. Scriptcraft did it, Rebirth did it, Valkyrie did it, it's nothing new.

[Gehere 8]

I think people fail to realize a very critical issue.

 

We will get the Nostalrius core.   But they would like to release a polished Nostalrius core.   And when they release Elysium - they want it VERY shiny.

 

What do you think they're doing right now?   Twiddling their thumbs - counting minutes?   They are working on code.   They are taking the BEST from both worlds.  Comparing bug trackers - replacing bugs with functional code.   Polishing this sh.it for us - so we don't complain about the same sh.it again.  And again.  And again.

 

And honestly - I think this is one of the reasons for the pushed schedule of the release of the Fresh Server, Elysium, as well.

 

When they release this - it will be a shining star - made to secure LEGACY, throughout several years.

 

Merry Christmas.

[Badtank 0]

I think people fail to realize a very critical issue.

 

We will get the Nostalrius core.   But they would like to release a polished Nostalrius core.   And when they release Elysium - they want it VERY shiny.

 

What do you think they're doing right now?   Twiddling their thumbs - counting minutes?   They are working on code.   They are taking the BEST from both worlds.  Comparing bug trackers - replacing bugs with functional code.   Polishing this sh.it for us - so we don't complain about the same sh.it again.  And again.  And again.

 

And honestly - I think this is one of the reasons for the pushed schedule of the release of the Fresh Server, Elysium, as well.

 

When they release this - it will be a shining star - made to secure LEGACY, throughout several years.

 

Merry Christmas.

They all ready had the best code with Valk as they had scriptcrafts core. Gummy's core was by and far the best overall scripting that the scene has ever seen.

[dahlblom 4]

It's amusing how much of the information has been changed since the initial announcement 4 weeks ago. You know the whole point of this was the merger, not the actual release of a new PvP server, the latter came as a bonus.

[Uncle Ganus of Clan McAnus 0]

By the Plucky Johnson's chicken fury, I say !! This Badtank guy is giving me Anatidaephobia !!!

[Elviss 5]

End of the world as we know it. Uncle run out of WoW references.

[Uncle Ganus of Clan McAnus 0]

End of the world as we know it. Uncle run out of WoW references.

 

By the lifeless skull of Rayaleith, I say !! That'll be the day !!!

[Strahl 2]

Gummy's core was by and far the best overall scripting that the scene has ever seen.

I'm hoping against hope that this is a troll post

[ironskillet2 2]

i feel bad for people going to the fresh pvp server because based on what i see here on the forums there are going to be an abundance of whiny babies playing over there.

[Nibelheim 0]

its so sad the people who dont understand why people wants fresh server, but its more sad that they think fresh server only will be played by noobs,newcomers and retail players, i have 60 toon pretty geared in the PVP server and i want a new fresh experience from the beginning with a new class,faction and race, my guild was full of 60s and most of them want to play in the fresh......  is it so hard to understand for you? most of you hate blizzard but you remind me of them

Edited December 13, 2016 by Nibelheim

[Tholren 7]

I hope you're not the kind of people who thinks that suzerain message on discord its true where he said "fresh server need more effort than the old servers" because it seems more hard to me merge 2 database than a fresh server...

 

I actually got to speak with a friend who works in this area and he said quite the opposite. But it doesn't matter if it's true or not, if they chose to work on the old servers first, then it is quite natural that the fresh server is not done yet. They're a very small team. If you ask me, however, if I agree/am happy with this choice, the answer is a very simple no. But I understand their reasons.

Edited December 13, 2016 by Tholren

[Limitless 6]

Yes, another fresh server thread that will be filled by hateful answers by the old pvp&players, but i have a big question that blow my mind, we all know that they delay the fresh server to avoid the risk of the old servers death with all the people rolling on the fresh but.... the vanilla community its so big guys

23k account were created on the last stress test, 10k players on the last stress test (most people dont even care about the tests) all servers will be fuilled... even the PVE will grab so many new players, why make half of your playerbase wait till january? with this launch order the only thing you will get is all the people who want the fresh joining in the old PVP to kill the time making the server unplayable for the real people who wants to play their old characters, maybe you have more reasons but if you are doing this to keep the players on the old servers i think you are pretty wrong, people will play wherever they want i hope we can talk about this without the fresh server haters. sry for bad english, regards.

That's the stupidest thing i've read. ''Hey look, we have enough customers to launch our brand new car, but вау it, we're gonna sell it with flaws and be overwhelmed with all the customers complaints. Then our business will go downhill because we can't keep up with the demand. ''

[Glenzig 34]

That's the stupidest thing i've read. ''Hey look, we have enough customers to launch our brand new car, but вау it, we're gonna sell it with flaws and be overwhelmed with all the customers complaints. Then our business will go downhill because we can't keep up with the demand. ''

Actually....that's exactly how the automotive industry works. They'll always just get bailed out and they know it.

[Limitless 6]

Actually....that's exactly how the automotive industry works. They'll always just get bailed out and they know it.

[Dralek 5]

Lul you didn't play here when it launched did you? Yeah people rolled here because they promised a raid schedule that was better then peenix. Then failed to meet any form of their announced dates. Nost was bumping because it had been quite some time since a "decent" server had launched, it launched right before kronos stealing all their hype and it stayed big because it was simply big. People didn't like "progressive" items btw, it was awful. FIve months of Domo not dropping loot, t1 being even extra awful, full t2 not dropping even though it did in that patch, HoJ being in the wrong place, literally no spell hit in the game, and rag having like six items on his loot table. People just stuck around because kronos wasn't any better even though it was newer. Every single server has done "progressive" raids since ваууing feenix. Scriptcraft did it, Rebirth did it, Valkyrie did it, it's nothing new.

 

Did not, I think I started playing in late 2015. Sure servers have bugs when they start, but the core already exists, most of those bugs have been fixed already.

 

I joined the community because I liked the fact that the server was still in its early stages, not much released, progression style, so did my friends.

 

Anyway the main point I was talking about on this thread was the one about the number of players per realm. The number of account transfers totals 30791 (for now). Although we might remove a few from the total number because of some players having more than one account, we can expect that it is at least representative of the number of players we might have in peak time.

 

It is highly possible that the nost pvp server will be packed, in turn needing an earlier release from the fresh server to accomodate the population.

Edited December 13, 2016 by Dralek

[Daedric 4]

It is highly possible that the nost pvp server will be packed, in turn needing an earlier release from the fresh server to accomodate the population.

That's what I'm curious about. I'm trying not to expect it and get excited for that option, but, at the same time, I don't see how they'll accommodate ALL the players, especially due to those returning, and the massive amount of hype surrounding the project.

[Rayaleith 2]

i feel bad for people going to the fresh pvp server because based on what i see here on the forums there are going to be an abundance of whiny babies playing over there.

 

I hope you do realize that 9/10 of your posts are, putting labels on people and cry like a little девушка легкого поведения...

[Rayaleith 2]

 

By the lifeless skull of Rayaleith, I say !! That'll be the day !!!

 

I will make you beg for mercy in-game! 

[Lifealert 19]

Elysiums staff main priority is the revival of nostalrius, really now? Or is their main goal to get a large community and they are using nostalrius old db to achieve this?

hard to tell

 

this is a new project, it just makes sense to have everyone start out at the same point. at least thats what I want. PvP with bad gear, getting 5 mans going, building guilds from scratch. just some points that people like about fresh realms.

 

you used to play on a server that shut down, whoopdiedoo. now someone is throwing you a bone with the old nost db and you act like you own the whole place.

Yeah we were here first. The people who played before the shutdown made nostalrius what it was so the staff SHOULD cater to our needs first rather than a bunch of spoiled legion babies who are used to instant gratification. 

[Rayaleith 2]

Yeah we were here first. The people who played before the shutdown made nostalrius what it was so the staff SHOULD cater to our needs first rather than a bunch of spoiled legion babies who are used to instant gratification. 

 

Ok, you are officially a baby. "Mum! I came here first! Tell them!!". Go to sleep, kid.

[Uncle Ganus of Clan McAnus 0]

I will make you beg for mercy in-game!

 

By your lost property, I say !! I promise you this boy: I'll be shedding a tear for ya on your funeral.....even If I'm the only one !!!

[Badtank 0]

Ok, you are officially a baby. "Mum! I came here first! Tell them!!". Go to sleep, kid.

Are you ok? Like can you function with the basic skills attributed to a member of the human species that has left adolescence? He's completely right, the entire movement was to get nost back, not get a new server. All the hanger on's that heard about nost after it closed want a fresh server sure but most of you are just gonna burn the вау out anyway so who gives a фекал about them?