Don't open 4th server

[killerduki 54]

Old Nost PVP will die with that and it will be same story.

There is already huge drop during USA and China time.

The Hype will not last long and there will be consequences in 3-4 months.

At least give a time with monitoring Tuesdays,Fridays,Saturdays population over next 3-4 months and then do the decisions please.

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited January 9, 2017 by killerduki

[Pyrognome 3]

It's a normal thing that older server lose some players when a fresh realm starts. But the core players will stay on their lvl 60 characters. The hype for the new server will stop soon which means that some players get bored of leveling a new charakter and will come back on their old at the old PvP Server. So don't worry.

If they open up a 4th Server, this won't happen within the next 4 weeks which means that they only open it up when there's really a deman for it because of new registered players.

[killerduki 54]

4 minutes ago, Thurlaion said:

It's a normal thing that older server lose some players when a fresh realm starts. But the core players will stay on their lvl 60 characters. The hype for the new server will stop soon which means that some players get bored of leveling a new charakter and will come back on their old at the old PvP Server. So don't worry.

If they open up a 4th Server, this won't happen within the next 4 weeks which means that they only open it up when there's really a deman for it because of new registered players.

I don't deny the loosing players,  just no point of opening new server at the cost of old server.

Don't make same mistake as Kronos did is my point.

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Pyrognome 3]

Yes I understand what you mean. But the old PvP Server still has a healthy population. 10:11 CET and 6k people online at old PvP is totaly healthy.

But what you point out is absolutely correct! They shouldn't open a new server too fast. They should wait until the hype for the fresh PvP is gone in order to see how many of the new registered players will stay and play on Elysium. I bet 50% of new players wanna test vanilla and give up due to the long leveling time.

[Wirago 8]

I am also not sure what to think about it.

On one hand, the hype WILL fade over time and the population will lower down. But on the other hand, if you wait too long with another fresh server, how many of those who already spent several days on their char will start all over again? 

I don't think it foreseeable how the population will develop in the next 1-2 months. Would be sad to have 4 half populated realms. 

Hard decission for the dev team to be honest.

[Sharatar 1]

Why not have 2 servers with the same character DB so you can play on either or as you'd only be able to play one at a time. Then if the population settles out just remove one server and everyone logs into one.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Sharatar

[Looneytune 3]

2 new servers now, but merging them to one if the goes away in a few months would be a nice solution.

[Shayss 43]

4 minutes ago, Looneytune said:

2 new servers now, but merging them to one if the goes away in a few months would be a nice solution.

Fuck merging.

If there is another fresh server then that server should stand but as a seperate fresh server.

Personally I am of the opinion that we should give it a few months.

[Pyrognome 3]

Well if you consider the possibility to merge 2 servers they must be at the same patch.

[Looneytune 3]

27 minutes ago, Shayss said:

вау merging.

If there is another fresh server then that server should stand but as a seperate fresh server.

Personally I am of the opinion that we should give it a few months.

Don't focus on the merge, dude. It's just to handle that amount of people who wanna play. See them both as one server. There must be solution. People can't wait over 3 hours to join the new server. There are a lot of people who just have three hours time to play. Don't be that ignorant. Of course the second new server has to release very very very soon for this solution.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Looneytune

[Pyrognome 3]

Especially if they have to wait 4 hours in CET morning times... which means this is NOT a peak time! 4 hours in peak time on a hyped server okay... but out of peak times 4 hours queue!? Are ya serious?

[Ram 11]

I don't play on Nost PVP, but I agree with the OP. You should wait like 1-2 months and monitor the population and queue numbers before you release a 4th realm. What makes this project attractive, are the realms with 10k players. Right now the project gets a huge boost from the hype, that will flatten. If you want to play on multiple realms with 2-3k players, you can also go to other projects. The "players" online stats on the elysium homepage say there are like 6k players online on Nost Pve most of the time. Lately I've seen a census of Nost Pve here on the forums, which had shown there were like 2k of the 6k players level 6k. What I am trying to say: Don't get fooled by big numbers, take a closer look.

 

*Edit*

 

Of course the queue times on Elysium PVP are immense now, because EVERYONE wants to play on it right now. But this trend will flatten and the queue times will go down.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Ram

[Barrek 0]

I'd argue that releasing another fresh server would only cause bigger issues in the long run.

Are the queues frustrating? Abso-ваууing-lutely!
Would we all love an easy solution? Yes!

The short term benefits of releasing another server wouldn't outweigh the potential for greater issues in the long run (granted, subjective view). Someone mentioned Kronos and it could be taken as an example; both servers are now of low population, suffering economies with K2 in particular stuck in war-effort limbo. Hype for Elysium PvP will subside eventually, whether it be from people being frustrated with queues or otherwise.

Keep the community together; Nostalrius had 2 servers and made it work, Elysium currently has 3. Making it four would only segment the community further which we really don't need right now. 

[Geex 3]

yea the ques will go down because ppl leave because theres a fkn queue! even when the server already has 5 times the population as it should.

 

unbelivable... ppl still say to not open a new realm wtf

 

 

"dont segment the community further"  

...what?!

no! do it. do segment the community further. thats what we need.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Geex

[Barrek 0]

2 minutes ago, Geex said:

yea the ques will go down because ppl leave because theres a fkn queue! even when the server already has 5 times the population as it should.

 

unbelivable... ppl still say to not open a new realm wtf

Baptized in the righteous fire of queuing; purging of the weak!

The queues will improve (especially when they actually have an autonomous disconnect mechanism for people sitting afk in the character screen). As it currently stands there seems to be no time on an afk disconnect in the character screen, so people are sitting there logged in clogging the queues.

[Pyrognome 3]

There allready IS a mechanic which kicks you out of character selection! But people use bots to avoid it.

[wowuser 2]

It would be kind of cruel to wait 1-2 months deciding on opening a new server, because nobody can play at the moment normally.

If you could play yesterday, there is no guarantee that today you will be able to, unless you have all day to wait literally 3-4 hours in the queue.

Most people have a couple of hours to play each day after work/school. At the moment they have almost no chance to play regularly, because the wait time alone takes this much.

And the problem is not even the queue itself, it's the low speed you can progress in the queue, because people already playing on the server have no reason to just log off, so the rotation is slow. Which is of course normal.

I agree that the hype will go down somewhat but I don't think that alone will make the 10-20k queue disappear.

 

And about the Old Nost PVP dying out...even a pop of 4-5 K is totally healthy and playable and the Nost PVP is very far from dropping to that level.

Opening a 2nd fresh realm won't make more people abandon the Old Nost PVP, why would it? Most people already know if they wan't to start over or not.

[Uglyaf 9]

Before opening 4th server at least start aq opening event on nost pvp. Its time for ptr tests of AQ bosses. Expand GM team - tickets open for 2-3 days. People sit on 2-3 accounts at the same time in order to avoid the queue, most of the time outside of main cities. I reported some of them they 2-3 times but still violating server rules. All I am saying get your sh1t together before even mentioning 4th server.

Edited January 9, 2017 by Uglyaf

[killerduki 54]

43 minutes ago, Uglyaf said:

Before opening 4th server at least start aq opening event on nost pvp. Its time for ptr tests of AQ bosses. Expand GM team - tickets open for 2-3 days. People sit on 2-3 accounts at the same time in order to avoid the queue, most of the time outside of main cities. I reported some of them they 2-3 times but still violating server rules. All I am saying get your sh1t together before even mentioning 4th server.

I agree completely , they should progress up to Naxx before some decision is made , why would some server die before "high end" , don't we all need progressive servers instead staying in Molten Core forever?

Also this is "Winter Vacation" for many , after "Winter Vacation" the population will drop overall is real reason i ask them to wait before they decide anything.

We don't want to end up with dead server after all the time wasted waiting for our characters.

p.s don't get me wrong , i was also up for 3rd server because i seen that there is too much people for that , this time after the pop drop i don't think 4th server is good idea, unless 3 months in row all 3 servers are full.

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited January 9, 2017 by killerduki

[void_echo 10]

3 hours ago, Thurlaion said:

Yes I understand what you mean. But the old PvP Server still has a healthy population. 10:11 CET and 6k people online at old PvP is totaly healthy.

Healthy population =/= healthy influx of new players with low level characters. If you don't have the latter, the former cannot be sustained, not even with low level alts.

Edited January 9, 2017 by void_echo

[Apophis 1]

Is it really a large population switching, or (also) many new players starting?

Since I didn't play Nost, I awaited the start of a new realm. I guess many others did too.

[Enhancement 12]

Currently sitting at 13,600 in queue on Elysium... so yeah, please do open a 4th server.

[Namus 0]

I think a new server would be a good idea but make a pve server and have a cap like the current nost pve of 6k so you have a flex of 4-5k people in the queues which in time will vanish and having a lower pop than the new pvp realm might be a sensible move.

queues are a good thing means alot of people want to play but I agree it will reduce in a few weeks/months. but let's hope the population continues to remain high! we have also the future of nost pvp to consider of whether it gradually becomes a tbc server so people not wanting to move will need a home and this new server could help support that potential player migration.

[Lama_3.00 euros 5]

I think u guys forgot hows vanilla servers was looking 2 years ago. 300 people on any server was more then awesome. and it was only feenix with more like 1k players. so dont cry now about "6k is low"! We need new serverfor sure, I still cant connect to new realm

Edited January 9, 2017 by Lama_3.00 euros

[Delahunt 1]

I think a "Burning Crusade" realm would be good, since there are no good ones out there!