Is playing on Elysium illegal?

[Loiri 0]

So I kinda registered my account with email that has my name on it, so the tin foil hat in me kinda woke up and I started to wonder if it's actually illegal to play on Elysium? Did I make a big mistake and is there police coming to arrest me some day?

[Amfiketo 1]

Dude, I or anyone in the world can make an email with you name and you couldn't do anything about that. There are no consequences from doing anything with that mail..

[Stormhart 12]

No, you will not get arrested for playing here. Wheter its legal or illegal, is debetable. 

[riplip 2]

There are much bigger issues for the police to worry about. Much bigger. And that's implying if it is even illegal. 

[Amfiketo 1]

Most of all, it's unproveable. For example: i neven ever played WoW from my computer, if someone did - it wasn't me. Sometimes i have friends coming to my place and might have done something liek that. I haven't. Guilt is personal, you computer - not really. Anyone can use it if you allow him and you don't bare any consequences from that.

[arbet 9]

No it's not illegal and no the police are not coming for you.

[toniplavna 20]

Moral is not the law. So , yes you can play it. You can't sell pirated games but  you can play and you can download them. If some1 says to you otherwise, they are lying

[Storfan 24]

No person has ever been arrested for playing on a private server. Not. A. Single. Person.

It will never ever happen.

Edited February 6, 2017 by Storfan

[tankafarian 3]

In the year 2006 I bought my first copy of World of Warcraft. I have payed for this with my own money and should have the right to use the product. 

[Revo 34]

3 hours ago, Stormhart said:

No, you will not get arrested for playing here

i agree. worst that can happen is that youre being sued to pay $10k(?) to compensate the damage blizzard has taken

[TheDruidCode 28]

Well it isn't illegal in any way but against the eula and I'm sure blizzard could ban your retail account if they would know it was you and felt like it. But I don't think that's gonna happen. If they want it shut down they'll go for the server not the player.

[Erjh8765 19]

12 minutes ago, Revo said:

i agree. worst that can happen is that youre being sued to pay $10k(?) to compensate the damage blizzard has taken

Tell Blizzard to sue me. They can kiss my ass.

In other news, I used to work with law Enforcement, and suffice to say affairs like that are not even on our radar. I mean, there's soooo much work to be done and so few people to do it. And then, you have got serious matters, like helping the community, catching anti-social people and so on.

When I was with the Force, there were -for example- a gang of criminals from the ex-SU, I think Georgians, who used to rob elderly ppl in their 70's who used to live alone, and they would use hot iron, the kind you use for ironing clothes, on these elderly people to make them confess where they hid their money. So, you'd go to the hospital, and see an elderly lady of 75 years old with 2nd degree burns over her body crying and begging to find these animals.

That's the kind of things that we do in the Force (amongst otehr things). Policing who plays what game on the internet so that J. Allen Brack can buy a new Porsche weren't even item No. 999 on our list of things to do.

Even if we received such a paper, we 'd use to wipe our asses. I mean, there's pedophiles who are out there roaming free b/c they were released from prison with that law about "decrowding prisons".

Policing children on the internet who play a videogame would be a waste of our time, resources and taxpayer money.

 

[zomgdav3 0]

6 hours ago, Loiri said:

So I kinda registered my account with email that has my name on it, so the tin foil hat in me kinda woke up and I started to wonder if it's actually illegal to play on Elysium? Did I make a big mistake and is there police coming to arrest me some day?

You're probably going to jail, you can just send me your gold so it doesn't go to waste. 

[Oakenlix 79]

They will come to your house in the middle of night, and they will lock you up. Extremely against the law.

[rikkisix 0]

FBI won't come to your door, but if you go on live and spam you're on there you get a chance to get banned It's like Pirateing music, i suppose. Most people don't get into too much trouble even when they do people sorta are like "What?" 

Edited February 6, 2017 by rikkisix

[Xemni 0]

Age old discussion. PLAYING on a private server is NOT illegal. Your contract with Blizzard isn't legally binding. Terms of use that you accept when you create an account with them is to give them the right to ban you in game. Not sue you. The big reason why, is the method to which you "accept" their contract is not enough to be considered legally binding.  

HOSTING a private server however, is Illegal depending on what country you're in. Russia? Not illegal. United States? Illegal, and its not because its against Blizzards terms of use either, its because of the gray areas within the law behind the whole matter in specific countries. Regarding copyright laws, and a few other things as well. 

 

At least, this is how i've always understood it, I could be wrong, but I do not believe that i am. 

 

 

If you're a US player, you can read through this article to get an idea behind why the terms of use aren't legally binding due to a court ruling from a terms of use agreement with barnes and noble. http://www.spzlegal.com/privacy/terms-of-use-legally-binding/

Edited February 7, 2017 by Xemni

[Revo 34]

what i hate the most about this is i have purchased vanilla wow 12 years ago. i paid for the game and i paid the monthly fee. but then blizzard decided to release an "addon", which pretty much changes and wipes the game ive paid for away.

so if you buy a game, the publisher is allowed to do whatever they want to it? why is there no law that protects the good youve purchased in its (atleast close to) original form?

what ive purchaed was advertised differently to what i have to play now. maybe even the system requirements changed so im not even able to play it anymore? can i get a refund?

 

its like the law is having a huge hole, not protecting purchased, virtual goods, especially games, as they should.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Revo

[TheDruidCode 28]

5 minutes ago, Revo said:

what i hate the most about this is i have purchased vanilla wow 12 years ago. i paid for the game and i paid the monthly fee. but then blizzard decided to release an "addon", which pretty much changes and wipes the game ive paid for away.

so if you buy a game, the publisher is allowed to do whatever they want to it? why is there no law that protects the good youve purchased in its (atleast close to) original form?

what ive purchaed was advertised differently to what i have to play now. maybe even the system requirements changed so im not even able to play it anymore? can i get a refund?

 

its like the law is having a huge hole, not protecting purchased, virtual goods, especially games, as they should.

Well you usually pretty much agree they can do whatever they please with the game when you accept the terms. Don't accept terms you don't agree with.

But I sort of get your point.

[Shiamorah 20]

It is not illegal to torrent a game you've owned. The only thing that could possibly be illegal here is how you acquired the game. Other than that, you aren't gonna get in trouble for anything. 

[Sange13 9]

23 hours ago, Xemni said:

Age old discussion. PLAYING on a private server is NOT illegal. Your contract with Blizzard isn't legally binding. Terms of use that you accept when you create an account with them is to give them the right to ban you in game. Not sue you. The big reason why, is the method to which you "accept" their contract is not enough to be considered legally binding.  

HOSTING a private server however, is Illegal depending on what country you're in. Russia? Not illegal. United States? Illegal, and its not because its against Blizzards terms of use either, its because of the gray areas within the law behind the whole matter in specific countries. Regarding copyright laws, and a few other things as well. 

 

At least, this is how i've always understood it, I could be wrong, but I do not believe that i am. 

 

 

If you're a US player, you can read through this article to get an idea behind why the terms of use aren't legally binding due to a court ruling from a terms of use agreement with barnes and noble. http://www.spzlegal.com/privacy/terms-of-use-legally-binding/

When you install WoW in retail, they put the ToS before the login screen, require you to scroll down and click the Agree button, and that is an affirmative notice--therefore enforceable. However, the point I would make is that playing on a private server only violates your retail account's license, and they would struggle to target specific players with copyright suits since they are only using the software, and not actually distributing/selling it (where copyright is most enforceable). There are arguments to be made for both sides, but as long as you don't post your private server activities anywhere that people can connect them to your retail account, it would be beyond unreasonable for them to try to action player accounts instead of simply attacking the servers themselves. Aside from the "letter of the law," and assuming Blizzard could even win that argument, there's also the issue of enforcement. You can't bleed a turnip, and most players wouldn't be able to compensate Blizzard for the court costs--not worth their time or money to pursue with such a high chance of negative return, and that's also to say nothing of the damage it could cause to their public perception (who knows the actual costs that could have?).

[Lifealert 19]

Yes I was imprisoned for 3 years for playing on Feenix awhile back. 

[Lifealert 19]

Mind you it was Blizzard's private jail which is located in Mexico. I barely got out alive and Blizzard sold one of my kidneys.