This needs to stop

[csant 3]

Ashenvale and Stonetalon Mountain will be a hell zone. My alliance alt has been parked at Stonetalon trying to finish the harpy quest for a while now. 

[Mcboneface 0]

28 minutes ago, Moonforest said:

What I mean with "mind games"?
Simply, I was killing my first pirates when i saw a mage and a priest struggling with a huge bunch of mobs (caused by the typical mage ultrapull). I could let them die, but I decided to help them, and without my aid they would be dead for sure. They thanked me and I kept on killing mobs outside the acampment (so, me and those 2 guys outide [+ other 3] and like 10 hordes inside).
Mobs runned out, so I had to enter the acampment, and I entered there after the 2 guys I helped. 
After two seconds a warrior charged me, then, the priest told something in /say, presumibly to not gank me because I helped them. And the warrior went back to his stuffs.

 

This and a thousands time's this. I'm a real cunt when it come's to pvp, im one of those attack everything on sight people. However if somebody helps me with some mobs or a quest or whatever it's real hard killing them after. Granted I sometimes do it anyway, but it just makes it so much harder and not enjoyable.

 

[gambinho 11]

horde has very long bg queues (on some days 40min+), and 90% of the games are against premades  so all the rankers have to farm honor in wpvp to stay competitive.

i do the same and spent alot of time infront of diremaul or in searing gorge.

questing in searing gorge,unguro,wpl can be hell i think as an alliance but as an grey player you almost never get killed

[Palladig 0]

3 hours ago, nvreeland said:

it's not supposed to be fun you idiot, it is supposed to make it more challenging, like when you chose your level on doom.

That is litterally what I said, but thanks for calling me stupid.

All I was trying to explain is that there is a diffrence between "The game was fun even though I lost" and "The game was fun because I lost".

My point in the second post is that "not liking to loose/die" is not just an opinion because it is shared by EVERYONE exept loosers.

[Driana 1]

On 4/16/2017 at 9:16 AM, Valkyrios said:

I really dont have a problem against same lvl people , hell i welcome it , but when i get spawn killed by lvl 60 , high ranked hordes that just run plain annoying and sad.

Why don't you call your friends over to help you? This is how PvP realms work... you should join a PvE realm if this is not something you can handle. It's not the fault of others, the responsibility is on you. 

[Caltrix 0]

On 4/21/2017 at 0:25 PM, Moonforest said:

Nothing has to stop, even if your right when you say that leveling an alliance toon is a pretty rough thing.
I'm currently near to 53 like you and of course i get ganked like everyone else.
Sometimes, like 1 week ago more or less, i was in Tanaris, killing pirates in their acampment for the hats quest and i was the ONLY alliance guy surrounded by like 15 horde, i know that feeling.

You can't avoid to be ganked by people who actually enjoy to gank everything red they see (i personally don't, but can we really blame them? It's a part of the game, not my part, not your part, but well that's it).
BUT, from my experience during aaall those years.. 
Go back on my experience in Tanaris, i actually had three options:
- Flee away
- Start doing my things hoping that 15 people from the opposite faction are good sport
- "Mind games"..

What I mean with "mind games"?
Simply, I was killing my first pirates when i saw a mage and a priest struggling with a huge bunch of mobs (caused by the typical mage ultrapull). I could let them die, but I decided to help them, and without my aid they would be dead for sure. They thanked me and I kept on killing mobs outside the acampment (so, me and those 2 guys outide [+ other 3] and like 10 hordes inside).
Mobs runned out, so I had to enter the acampment, and I entered there after the 2 guys I helped. 
After two seconds a warrior charged me, then, the priest told something in /say, presumibly to not gank me because I helped them. And the warrior went back to his stuffs.
End of the story, I did my quest (that took 1 hour) in peace, surrounded by the enemy and none attached me. And something like that happened more than one time during my leveling experience.

Obviously i was lucky, because these two guys could have killed me anyway, or the warrior, etc.

But well, I think that is better to try everything you can instead of complaining on the forums.
(and complaining does nothing but the opposite..)
 

Sounds like you sucked their dicks and still got shit on. 

RIP, GG.

[Amph 5]

There are level 60 alliance players who literally camp areas like Sun Rock Retreat and other lowbie zone hubs killing players 30 levels below them all day.

[Moonforest 0]

6 hours ago, Caltrix said:

Sounds like you sucked their dicks and still got shit on. 

RIP, GG.

No?

[Garun 9]

Rolls on a PvP server and crys about PvP. Makes a lot of sense to me.

[Cnkl 2]

The current world PvP is a game mechanic that is completely unadapted to the players quantity on the server.

[Dragon Panda 0]

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Join Horde today!

Change your colours red or keep wetting the bed!

[Spodler 0]

Well exactly this happens on extremly overcrowded PVP-Servers. Especially in Vanilla where you have the smallest world and only groundmounts. Was exactly the same on Old Nost when they had over 5K Player on a single server. Vanilla is not made for 9K people on 1 realm.

 

There is no realistic way too handle that without bringing the pop to a reasonable level. But since 80% of this Board will start crying that the server dies when it reaches reasonable pop levels (between 2k and 4k Prime time) and they can't find groups in 2 minutes, this won't really happen.

 

Either you deal with it or you join Darrowshire.

 

 

[Hurricane2 2]

Saying extremely over crowded is just an opinion and isn't shared by most as you can see by the population distribution. 

You think 1.5k pop is a reasonable level.  I say 10k is.  

Enjoy your care bear fest on darrowshire while we have fun on Elysium.

[Justme 9]

13 minutes ago, Hurricane2 said:

Saying extremely over crowded is just an opinion and isn't shared by most as you can see by the population distribution. 

You think 1.5k pop is a reasonable level.  I say 10k is.  

Enjoy your care bear fest on darrowshire while we have fun on Elysium.

It's not an opinion. It's extremely crowded relatively compared to retail 2006.

[Hurricane2 2]

43 minutes ago, Justme said:

It's not an opinion. It's extremely crowded relatively compared to retail 2006.

It has many more people.  It is not extremely crowded.  What you are saying is the definition of an opinion.

[Justme 9]

Just now, Hurricane2 said:

It has many more people.  It is not extremely crowded.  What you are saying is the definition of an opinion.

You're wrong. It's called extreme because the amount of players exceeds the bounds of moderation. 
 besides, opinions are worthless without arguments. Why do you have the opinion that having twice the population of a 2006 retail server is not extreme?

[Hurricane2 2]

3 minutes ago, Justme said:

You're wrong. It's called extreme because the amount of players exceeds the bounds of moderation. 
 besides, opinions are worthless without arguments. Why do you have the opinion that having twice the population of a 2006 retail server is not extreme?

Because in 2006 blizzard was limited by technology on server size.  I was on a med pop server and our ogrimmar raid caused the server to act like it was under ddos attack.  With all the content in this game quadrupling the old max vanilla pop does not create extreme over crowding.  Improving the population size as technology improves is only logical.

[Justme 9]

3 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

Because in 2006 blizzard was limited by technology on server size.  I was on a med pop server and our ogrimmar raid caused the server to act like it was under ddos attack.  With all the content in this game quadrupling the old max vanilla pop does not create extreme over crowding.  Improving the population size as technology improves is only logical.

Nobody is denying that. All we're saying that we've got extreme population compared to back then (wich is logical, but still a fact)

[Hurricane2 2]

It's 3x bigger but that doesn't make it extreme.

[flowqz 34]

22 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

Because in 2006 blizzard was limited by technology on server size.  I was on a med pop server and our ogrimmar raid caused the server to act like it was under ddos attack.  With all the content in this game quadrupling the old max vanilla pop does not create extreme over crowding.  Improving the population size as technology improves is only logical.

i actually remember beeing happe about city raids, because they made the server crash most of the time, resetting worldboss spawns.

[ProMeTheus112 1]

There are some high level hordes patrolling low level areas who kill you if you try to engage in wild pvp with someone your level, annoying :P but ok........ having fun, lot of action, vastly disadvantageous on alliance side due to being outnumbered most of the time (oddly? the pop counter saying its balanced, I guess allies are more high level or smtg) and this.

[Oyani 0]

You're doing it wrong. Alliance MO is group up with 4 other ppl that are like 10 levels above max for the zone and then do quests while ganking every soloing horde that's like 8 levels below your level. If you're Alliance and not doing that, you're doing it wrong.

[wickedwizard 2]

@OP you think when you hit 60 anything will change.

 

[Oakenlix 79]

3 minutes ago, wickedwizard said:

@OP you think when you hit 60 anything will change.

 

Yes, his level definitely will.

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

War is great. I hope nothing changes about the wpvp on this server.

-Alliance Hunter