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This the worst change to the server yet! Bring back the old system or whitekidney is single handly killing the pvp scene! a premade is basiclly the same as a guild for the time u rank.  Make it like premades get into a premade que for 5-10 min if u cant  find a match for them then bring them into normal que.

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I have the feeling we are getting trolled here since absolutely nothing good would come of this proposed change.  May as well disband all guilds, remove friend lists and remove all chat options if serious about this change.

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That's what whitekidney most likely thinks about you. This forum is just a waste of time. Don't try to change anything for the better. They are not worth your efforts.

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5 minutes ago, Mahtan said:

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That's what whitekidney most likely thinks about you. This forum is just a waste of time. Don't try to change anything for the better. They are not worth your efforts.

This change sucks and isn't blizzlike. Good try tho

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They will most likely just close this thread and new threads about this topic. That's how they deal with "discussions" in this forum.

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14 minutes ago, Rozamra said:

Ill lose most of friends if this goes through... and if that happens, I wont stay here either.

This dog shit change will kill the server

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I doubt that. It will annoy some people on Darrowshire/Anathema, but it's not like these servers are flourishing these days anyway.

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What kills BGs for me is not premades, its the afk people in your team. Making your own premade was the only solution. This change removed it, while not solving the actual problem.

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20 minutes ago, Oakenlix said:

What kills BGs for me is not premades, its the afk people in your team. Making your own premade was the only solution. This change removed it, while not solving the actual problem.

This change will make afking bgs easier honestly 

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Hi everyone!

I found retail evidence of people queuing WSG in groups of 10 so I made a corresponding bug report so the developers and the QA team could take a look to see if this is Blizzlike. If you find anymore evidence of people queuing these "premade" things in retail feel free to post more evidence!

https://github.com/elysium-project/server/issues/2486

 

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On 9/8/2017 at 9:57 AM, Shayss said:

Just because all the sickos went alliance doesnt mean you should change the game to accomodate others.

lmao all the sickos went alliance? http://i.imgur.com/fDefIZc.png taken 5 min ago

 

Should I bring up the searing gorge, steppes and dire maul shit where there were hundreds of horde farming alli?

ye, we're the sickos. and when we fight back we get jumped by three others and corpse camped. that's cool

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30 minutes ago, riplip said:

lmao all the sickos went alliance? http://i.imgur.com/fDefIZc.png taken 5 min ago

 

Should I bring up the searing gorge, steppes and dire maul shit where there were hundreds of horde farming alli?

ye, we're the sickos. and when we fight back we get jumped by three others and corpse camped. that's cool

Man I wish my guild was on that server. We would arrest all those horde for illegal buffs 

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Best way to make honor is to move around the fights, getting all the hk's not taking any deaths btw.

Let's see how enjoyable the pvp is when everyone is doing this, it's what the staff wanted right?

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It's a shame, I'm having the most fun I've ever had on Elysium this wsg weekend.


So many excellent premade vs premade games. I'm going to miss this.

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@sabre

that's not true :')

People who have any understanding of the game and the implications of this change are complaining.

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Instead of updating PvP sets (both rare and epic ones) for people who have spent hundreds of hours farming them, instead of making some sensible changes to retardedly grindy honor system to make it less grindy, Elysium devs want to make it more grindy, chaotic and even more punishing? Bravo! 

Let's ban premading! "Shut up, PvP guy!"

 

 

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It really gets the noggin jogging when they already have historical data and input from old servers to see what happens when they fuck with the queue system and they still do it regardless.

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I understand them trying to make their own mark on the pserver scene, split off from the "Nostalrius 2.0" image they have and do their own thing.

Regrettably, this is the worst possible way to do it. It's almost as though it's their attempt to make sure half the server population quits Elysium so it stops lagging.

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There has been a similar reddit thread going on with a user even making the poll to see the community input. The results are avaliable here: http://www.strawpoll.me/13893603/r So after almost 2k votes we see the distribution. Listen to the community, if it's like 80% of the playerbase requesting for the pvp system change, sure, do it. This poll however only confirms my assumptions which is that most people disagree with the change. Before trying to change the queue system please fix:

1. Account sharing-monitor accounts online for 72+ hours in a row, there are tens of them every week.

2. Fix the BG mark not expiring bug, allowing for absurd ammount of greater honor turn ins per week due to mark stacking abuse

3. Fix the herb spawn timers

4. Update the PvP gear according to Nostalrius' recipe, it had no PvE impact whatsoever but it made ranking and PvPing more attractive to people

5. Fix the problem of Anti-AFK scripters and hackers, fix the terrain exploits allowing people to farm for example Drakki behind the wall

In the end, I would like to mention one thing: The premades are not a problem. I've been solo queing WSG all weekend long and people that QQ 99% of our games are prems zomg are CLUELESS. Seeing a 2-3-4 man random china r10 stack and people automatically quit. Most of the prems are shitmades and winnable even with a full pug if people try. I've played in a PuG that dismantled Sleepzhen, Sarahly and the rest of that backpeddling mouthbreathing keyboardturning made in 15 minutes even with 1 rogue afking in gy for the duration of the game. It literally takes you 5-6 games to meet a solid premade. I reckon if any1 made their own group of people on discord who have a slightest clue about the game and who used consumables when necessary you would win 80-90% of the games vs current ally scene. GRIZZLY made or ex-ranker premade would give you a run for your money but that's about it. UPDATE: ally premades seem to be capped other than china shitmades, meaning it's pug vs pug for 3days.

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More evidence to the point that the solution to the "problem" of alliance premades? Horde premades.

If you don't like losing to premades, make a premade and beat them. Nobody real wants this change, the best pvp in vanilla is premade vs premade, don't spoil it to cater to people who play 2 hours of pvp a week.

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All the changes because John plays 5 Arathi Basins every month and he gets dumpstered by a team that has gathered people that will rank for 3 months together. How unfair to John, its not fair he gets destroyed by people dedicating ten times more effort and time into playing Battlegrounds for honor in a single day than he does in a month. 

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lol thats actually retarded, you're basically punishing people for playing the game the way its supposed to be with organized teams, you prolly just want to save the chinese pugs from total destruction or the pve carebears that do 5 ABs per month

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