cybaster 31 Report post Posted October 31, 2017 3 hours ago, killerduki said: What was Elysiums , it belongs to them , the rest is just nonsense to debate even. That's reaaaallly not true, though. They got their code/db from Nostalrius. Nostalrius gave it to them because Elysium straight up lied to Nost's team about what they planned to do with it. Nostalrius has stated that they do not approve of Elysium's abuses. If I said I wanted to borrow your gun to go hunting, and you agreed to this, and I then took the gun and robbed people in an alley with it, and refused to give it back when you asked, would you consider my actions to be moral? Would you think the gun belongs to me? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, cybaster said: That's reaaaallly not true, though. They got their code/db from Nostalrius. Nostalrius gave it to them because Elysium straight up lied to Nost's team about what they planned to do with it. Nostalrius has stated that they do not approve of Elysium's abuses. If I said I wanted to borrow your gun to go hunting, and you agreed to this, and I then took the gun and robbed people in an alley with it, and refused to give it back when you asked, would you consider my actions to be moral? Would you think the gun belongs to me? Nobody did borrow anything , it was given as a gift , what you said about refusing back is not truth at all. Everything was given back by Elysium to Nostalrius upon request. What left inside Elysium was only their own copy , that's all. That's not even close to what WhiteKidney did against Elysium. What belongs to Elysium should remain there, the rest is nonsense . /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybaster 31 Report post Posted October 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, killerduki said: Everything was given back by Elysium to Nostalrius upon request. Ah, so now you're lying, too. Or you're ignorant of what actually went down. Unfortunately, I don't think correcting killerduki-level ignorance is within my capabilities, so we're at an impasse for the time being. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, cybaster said: Ah, so now you're lying, too. Or you're ignorant of what actually went down. Unfortunately, I don't think correcting killerduki-level ignorance is within my capabilities, so we're at an impasse for the time being. And which part i am lying , please give evidence for your claim! /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionheart 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2017 Something is definitely not right with LH's claims in this case. Their own customers are already outraged about their lack of "transparency" (yeh, lol) about this. Seems they can't handle their own servers or tasting some of their own medicine. WK didn't give anyone a choice if the community wanted to become his money-slaves through Chinese friends at lovewow or whatever it's called. Like when he made the entire server lag like a sloth so he could steal our personal info, he's rather doing that again rather than giving the community their legitimate freedom of choice. That's all he cares. The only thing this douchebag is good at is exploiting vulnerable people. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybaster 31 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 13 hours ago, killerduki said: And which part i am lying , please give evidence for your claim! /Kind regards Killerduki Not possible. The only evidence of this that doesn't require an individual to employ common sense to accept, would be direct quotation from former-Elysium staff turned LH, who you regard as liars and thieves. Moreover, I see no point in lecturing you about the impossibility of simply discarding Nostalrius' overwhelming contribution to the code-base Elysium's so-called "Anathema" core uses as its foundation to this very day. I won't go on about how this could not be done without a complete character wipe and a half-year long retooling of the servers and a rollback of every change made to the code since, of which there were countless, because... 13 hours ago, cybaster said: Ah, so now you're lying, too. Or you're ignorant of what actually went down. Unfortunately, I don't think correcting killerduki-level ignorance is within my capabilities, so we're at an impasse for the time being. I could sit you down in a room with computer science majors and field experts who would explain why all of this is true but you would still claim evidence has not been presented because you have a caveman brain incapable of recognizing the existence of anything you can't hold in your two useless hands. I will have to be satisfied that readers of this conversation with even a tiny understanding of how code is modified and changes are pushed will immediately recognize that you are overwhelmingly, perhaps even willfully, ignorant of the most basic and important knowledge points necessary to understand what all went down here. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasrahni 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 On 30/10/2017 at 8:34 PM, DarknessCalls said: That is not my resource, but I'll try and be civil here - let's see some transparency from the top regarding this process. Detail exactly how the information is being taken from the Light's Hope servers and being sent back to Elysium, and why there is no risk of information being compromised. And include these details when selecting the "Restore characters" link, so people know exactly what they are doing when they initiate this process. Setting aside the various ethical debates around the server split I would like to see this point addressed by official staff (and preferably not in a passive aggressive manner). 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heresysings 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 3:35 PM, Jackal said: I personally have no clue how it works and neither do you. I would like to repeat.. if your source is Reddit or Light's Hope discord then please take that information with a grain of salt. Yet you still dont deny it, only admit you dont know. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane2 2 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 21 hours ago, killerduki said: Well , now Elysium found a clever way to return back what was theirs . Unlike Theft WK. What was Elysiums , it belongs to them , the rest is just nonsense to debate even. /Kind regards Killerduki And what exactly did WK steal that elysium owned? It must be really obvious because you mention it in every thread without actually substantiating what it actually is. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarknessCalls 8 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 The arguments/shilling going on here is pointless. Many of us here are still waiting on an explanation of how exactly this recovery tool works. More and more evidence still pointing it to be a botnet that has a risk of compromising your information to 3rd party. Waiting for that supposed transparency from Crogge/Shenna ... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unbreakable 1 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 On October 30, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Jackal said: You have no clue how we are getting the data. On October 30, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Jackal said: I personally have no clue how it works ROFL tell people they are wrong when you don't even know. Typical. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guardian452 1 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, DarknessCalls said: The arguments/shilling going on here is pointless. Many of us here are still waiting on an explanation of how exactly this recovery tool works. More and more evidence still pointing it to be a botnet that has a risk of compromising your information to 3rd party. Waiting for that supposed transparency from Crogge/Shenna ... Yes... this, right here. I know I've asked the staff in a couple of threads now about HOW they are getting the info back. The lack of response makes me NOT want to play here. I haven't even used the tool yet because no one can give an answer about where that data is going. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Hurricane2 said: And what exactly did WK steal that elysium owned? It must be really obvious because you mention it in every thread without actually substantiating what it actually is. Their Database he stole and everything and forcefully destroying it from Elysium's Project. 3 hours ago, DarknessCalls said: The arguments/shilling going on here is pointless. Many of us here are still waiting on an explanation of how exactly this recovery tool works. More and more evidence still pointing it to be a botnet that has a risk of compromising your information to 3rd party. Waiting for that supposed transparency from Crogge/Shenna ... If you are allowed to play in it , who gives a fuck about what way they will do it. You will have what you want to have. 1 hour ago, Guardian452 said: Yes... this, right here. I know I've asked the staff in a couple of threads now about HOW they are getting the info back. The lack of response makes me NOT want to play here. I haven't even used the tool yet because no one can give an answer about where that data is going. Then don't play if you are too emotional in lack of response , nobody force you , Play or Leave , simple as that. Who are you to give you such info? Nobody and unknown troll behind Virtual World. Did they told you to play here? No!. It was you that came here on your own. This is not Politic, this is Project that lead Game , who cares about the rest , as long you play the Game . /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarknessCalls 8 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, killerduki said: If you are allowed to play in it , who gives a fuck about what way they will do it. You will have what you want to have. You are the biggest shill apologist on here. I'm sorry that asking for a little bit of transparency on the process goes way over your head. Let the big boys talk going forward, ok? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guardian452 1 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, killerduki said: Then don't play if you are too emotional in lack of response , nobody force you , Play or Leave , simple as that. Who are you to give you such info? Nobody and unknown troll behind Virtual World. Did they told you to play here? No!. It was you that came here on your own. This is not Politic, this is Project that lead Game , who cares about the rest , as long you play the Game . /Kind regards Killerduki Don't forget duki... you're a nobody troll too. We've gone around in this circle for a while now. Now if you can just keep yourself off the LH Discord, all will be well with the world. (also, your typing gets pretty horrible the more you get worked up... it's kinda funny) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sale 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, Guardian452 said: also, your typing gets pretty horrible the more you get worked up... it's kinda funny wau.......wau.....i....is this ur only valid argument?? l o .l. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, yousuck said: This is a crock of shit, Elysium is fucked now, the character restoration instantly bans Lights Hope accounts, and does nothing to restore your character, other than the way it was before their breakdown, which is a significant loss of progress. This is an unacceptable underhanded tactic, and they will lose players because of it. What crock of shit ? Did anyone told you that Light Hope is who bans your Accounts there , not Elysium. Elysium do not have any Ban access to Light Hope, this is done purely by Light Hope Admins making it automatic ban toward you (Just like Blizzard banning people who play on private servers if they get caught). So you see the double standards, while LH accuse Elysium of you getting the Bans , it's LH Staff who bans you! Not Elysium. 20 minutes ago, YoshiMoshi said: Lmao. This garbage is so funny. KillerDuki is extremely fucking awful at handling support. Go read a self improvement book ya cunt. Fuck outta here with your bullshit you ungrateful little shit. Get fucked in the arse, dickwad. Fuck Elysium Project and all you poor brainwashed dumb fucks who still support it. This server was never yours. Burn motherfuckers, burnnnn. Thanks for the time though, it was sincerely fun. What support are you talking about ?! I am not even Staff , neither CM , neither anything in this project . Your comment and statement is based of Garbage nonsense discussion only. I don't give a shit about the Project , i just care about the Character i play , neither i do approve or accept such destruction/stealing like LH and WK did against the project where i play in. /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucyfer 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 6 hours ago, killerduki said: I don't give a shit about the Project , i just care about the Character i play , neither i do approve or accept such destruction/stealing like LH and WK did against the project where i play in. /Kind regards Killerduki I guess killerduki char was the only one that didnt get copied over to LH. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 3 hours ago, lucyfer said: I guess killerduki char was the only one that didnt get copied over to LH. Neither i give any shit if it was copied. I never been there and was never my choice nor decision to play there! /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motorbreath 923 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 It may concern you since they made sure to have the most up to date database, leaving Elysium with over a month old one. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ServerDaddy 2 Report post Posted November 2, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 4:24 PM, Jackal said: You have no clue how we are getting the data. If reddit is your resource please come back when you have some concrete data. TFW Light's Hope doesn't offer you a game master position so you have to stay at Elysium to feel like you still have power 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
