Why are retail players so angry about this server?

[Crowley 8]

Although I don't have a sub over there, I check in at least once a day over on retail's forums (mostly just to read the stickied legacy server thread), some of the players are SO angry at this server and the people who intend to play on it.  Lots of keyboard lawyers for the most part.  I can't really figure out what/how another person chooses to play games on their own time has anything to do with them.   Are they worried players are going to leave that sinking ship for the greener pastures of vanilla?  Either way it's entertaining to read.

[gotmilk0112 10]

You went to the official forums. There's your problem.

 

They are always crying and whining and doomsaying about one thing or another. That's just what they do.

 

Myself, I play retail and vanilla because I don't see why I should limit myself to only one. /shrug

[Elviss 5]

I accidentally stumbled on some random retail rage post, yea, it's laughable.

 

I believe they are afraid that Blizzard might open legacy servers of their own (i know...but still...)

 

But honestly, who can tell what's in sheep's mind?

[Limitless 6]

Retail players made the game awful. That's why. Entitled kids who wants every thing the easiest way possible.

[Elviss 5]

Retail players made the game awful. That's why. Entitled kids who wants every thing the easiest way possible.

^^this!

[Docholy 4]

I think the rage stems from the fact that people who play vanilla are - without saying it - implying retail sucks.  This gets them angry because the few diehards left  drank the Koolaid.  Most retail players are post Wrath players (not all) who have no idea what the old game is.  So they take great offence to people implying a 12-year-old game is better than the "cutting edge" tech Legion has. 

[Faith 5]

Although I don't have a sub over there, I check in at least once a day over on retail's forums (mostly just to read the stickied legacy server thread), some of the players are SO angry at this server and the people who intend to play on it.  Lots of keyboard lawyers for the most part.  I can't really figure out what/how another person chooses to play games on their own time has anything to do with them.   Are they worried players are going to leave that sinking ship for the greener pastures of vanilla?  Either way it's entertaining to read.

 

never go to retail forums or any of that stuff.. if they are pissed.. well.. 2 FAKIN BAD!!

 

 

[Rageflakes 0]

I've honestly seen more фекал thrown at retail players from the private server community than the other way around. no one I play retail with gives a вау about the private server community.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Rageflakes

[Xykaru 1]

Because they realized they spent so much money and time on something that sucks

[Docholy 4]

I've honestly seen more фекал thrown at retail players from the private server community than the other way around. None I play retail with gives a вау about the private server community.

The point is retail should not be mad for the sake of private server existing, yes they get trolled by the private server community but retail players are furious that private server exist. Regardless if they get trolled or not. 

[Ellipsea 36]

Who cares.  Retail forums are the worst.

[Xom 8]

There are a number of things, most of them are blanket statements too. Like some people think that all of us (or most of us) only want to play because it's free. I know that's not true for anyone I met playing, though I'm sure there are some out there who wouldn't pay and wouldn't be here with money involved. I think they think that merely because it is free, they think that must be the reason.

 

Any way they dismiss it, it usually revolves around some misapprehension, or partially correct thing, and then they blanket the entire enterprise with that conclusion. "Everyone will get tired of farming MC in a week, good luck with that" - while they don't realize that people have been doing just that on Nost. They just don't know what's happening and how different the game is these days.

 

And those who do remember it might recall some of the worse parts and then put it out of their miinds, or they accept that they'll never have the magic of early WoW back.

 

Also, many people just don't trust Private servers, Torrents, or any of that kind of shady dealings. Many are convinced their retail accounts would be banned instantly if they played on Private, or don't believe it is actually that close to original; they think it's full of cheaters/dupers/instant-60 type things. They just don't understand, and many don't really want to either - they dismiss it as "Illegal, so GTFO" and don't really engage much more with the subject. There's a lack of nuance, but that's not really anything new I suppose for fans of things.

[Faith 5]

There are a number of things, most of them are blanket statements too. Like some people think that all of us (or most of us) only want to play because it's free. I know that's not true for anyone I met playing, though I'm sure there are some out there who wouldn't pay and wouldn't be here with money involved. I think they think that merely because it is free, they think that must be the reason.

 

If wow put out quality Legacy Vanilla I'd pay 30 a month just to play it. 

 

Any way they dismiss it, it usually revolves around some misapprehension, or partially correct thing, and then they blanket the entire enterprise with that conclusion. "Everyone will get tired of farming MC in a week, good luck with that" - while they don't realize that people have been doing just that on Nost. They just don't know what's happening and how different the game is these days.

 

And those who do remember it might recall some of the worse parts and then put it out of their miinds, or they accept that they'll never have the magic of early WoW back.

 

Also, many people just don't trust Private servers, Torrents, or any of that kind of shady dealings. Many are convinced their retail accounts would be banned instantly if they played on Private, Amazing how stupid some gamers are or don't believe it is actually that close to original; they think it's full of cheaters/dupers/instant-60 type things. They just don't understand, and many don't really want to either - they dismiss it as "Illegal, so GTFO" and don't really engage much more with the subject. There's a lack of nuance, but that's not really anything new I suppose for fans of things.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Faith

[Everquest 7]

Because they are misinformed.

and/or

Because they react to extreme vanilla supporters

 

Like Xykaru's post. A comment like that will trigger them and they'll react defensively.

You can say you don't like retail wow. But please don't generalize it. Stop poking the bear.

Some people stay up all night to watch sumo wrestling. I don't, but that doesn't mean the sport sucks.

Let people like what they like. If you go into an argument with a hostile approach, don't be surprised if they treat you the same.

 

Vanilla wow is a different game. Retail players shouldn't be bothered by it, and most won't be if you don't flame them for playing retail.

[Ellipsea 36]

You have to want something ideally better to come here and see for yourself.   You'd have to think and feel there was probably something better out there.  You'd have to know somehow.

 

I never played a private server before, but I knew in my heart from the brief, secret, nostalgic whispering descriptions of vanilla that there was something better.  

 

All the retail forums sounds were silenced as I found my way through youtube hype and understood from exploration how to connect myself to Nostalrius, and to a larger extent I understood the intracacies of the private server world then.  

 

I found something glorious.

 

We can't expect anyone else to put in the effort to understand.  We can just sing our songs and know that some will hear.  Some will come.  Some will stay.

 

I have 2 months of banked time on my frozen account in retail and enough gold to buy a year if I wanted.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Ellipsea

[Faith 5]

It's sad all the people that try to bash Vanilla WoW who probably have never even played it.     

[Ellipsea 36]

I never played it.  Someone described the talent trees to me and that sounded like exactly what I had been thinking of.  Someone told me how dangerous it was.  Someone told me how social it was.  

 

I was never nostalgic for it, because I had never been here.

[Faith 5]

I never played it.  Someone described the talent trees to me and that sounded like exactly what I had been thinking of.  Someone told me how dangerous it was.  Someone told me how social it was.  

 

I was never nostalgic for it, because I had never been here.

So you jumped on Nostalrius and found out just how good Vanilla was?

 

I'm very happy you did that. I was in wow right from the start. In fact my realm Doomhammer was one of the original beta servers.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2016 by Faith

[Ellipsea 36]

Yup.  I only had an idea from the whispers.  But by the time 6.2 rolled out....bleh.  It happened to precede the launch of Nostalrius and give me the exact right amount of time to discover the world. : )

 

Was an extremely lucky coincidence.

 

In other words: thank god that 6.2 was just that bad.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Ellipsea

[Faith 5]

Awesome. Are you going to be on the PvE realm? 

[Ellipsea 36]

Yes. I have a guild full of luvies there waiting : )

[Cipherr 1]

Although I don't have a sub over there, I check in at least once a day over on retail's forums (mostly just to read the stickied legacy server thread), some of the players are SO angry at this server and the people who intend to play on it.  

 

No offense but take a trip to Reddit. I check the different private server subreddits daily while I work and its the same thing in reverse. Corny mass upvoted stuff hating on Legion/Live and the people that enjoy it. Both sides are chock full of insecure idiots who don't know how to deal with someone liking something they don't like.

 

All you can do is ignore it.

[Undertanker 88]

Reddit.

[Xykaru 1]

Like Xykaru's post. A comment like that will trigger them and they'll react defensively.

 

This. It's not so much that extreme vanillers hate retail players, it's more that they can't honestly be nice to people that play a modernized version of a game with zero respect for what it originally was, let alone people that literally become upset over things people say on the internet.

 

   You would think all of these retailers would be excited to see what the game was originally like, at least to get a taste of how much WoW has evolved for better or worse.

 

 PvE and Retail are blah.

[Pishy 0]

Most retail players are post Wrath players (not all) who have no idea what the old game is. 

Sad story: There is a (quite serious) documentary in my country called "10 years World of Warcraft" made in 2015. Now the sad part is, one of the main speakers from the player base is a fakin blonde uglyface playing the game since 2012... Telling about the "magic of WoW" and the act of raiding etc etc. Are they ваууi-ng kidding me? Is this biatch kidding me? 2012, "10 years of WoW" pfff. Not a WoW player at all.