That moment you realize Ret Paladins don't have Crusader Strike or Divine Storm

[Vaulken 0]

and you already so invested but they boring as fug

 

Edited December 15, 2016 by Vaulken

[Gizzles2313 0]

Im probably going ret pally for pvp. I think with the right skill set and the player you could be pretty good. I know ret pallys are a joke in raids but I don't think I ever had bad luck with them in pvp

[Rayaleith 2]

Holy palas are great for group PvP. Tremendous utility. 

[Sussemilch 0]

Hmm, moonkin form didn't come out until 1.8...  (e) oh good, that's before 1.12.  We're not doing math

Edited December 15, 2016 by Sussemilch

[Vomit 0]

Didn't moonkin form suck until BC or later? I can't remember seeing many before that. Maybe suck is a little too strong. Druids were typically relegated to healing.

[Undertanker 88]

Yeah moonkin can do decent in short fights.  Drop off greatly after +30 second fight.   They get pretty much a 17.5% damage increase if you got a TF in the raid, since bosses only get at max 70 NR, -25 NR is damn helpful. 

[Fightmilk 0]

I remember back in beta paladins got a anytime weapon style (crusader strike) and oh man were they op as hell. No surprise they removed it before release or shortly after.

[Strahl 2]

theloras and killerduki, I would really like to read your opinion on the matter

[Theloras 108]

lolret

[killerduki 54]

That moment you realize Ret Paladins don't have Crusader Strike or Divine Storm

 

 

No thanks for me, i don't want tbc or alpha changes , i want vanilla ret as i used to play . i still miss my old days when as Ret Paladin you can pull 1200 dps on undeads.

 

Seal and Judgement of Command is for me , Consecration was driving me crazy when i see those folks to be honest,  it was miss leading the principles and Game Play style of Paladins.

 

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited December 16, 2016 by killerduki

[Badtank 0]

lolret

Just join entitled.

[Theloras 108]

Just join entitled.

 

or even worse, Chimaera...

[Winfernal 0]

I was told by the top guilds that ret is totally viable, plz

3k retadins inc

[gotmilk0112 10]

Didn't moonkin form suck until BC or later? I can't remember seeing many before that. Maybe suck is a little too strong. Druids were typically relegated to healing.

Yes, vanilla Moonkin form doesn't do anything except give you some extra armor and 3% crit.

 

And you can only cast Balance spells, you can't even dispel or innervate or brez or anything, without dropping form.

 

 

i think moonkins have great damage but basically non existent mana which is the main problem. i could be wrong on that one tho.

Yep, like non-Mage/Warlock caster dps, mana is their biggest problem.

 

Especially when they're pressured into using Innervate on healers instead of themselves.

Edited December 16, 2016 by gotmilk0112

[Enhancement 12]

Paladins still rock. I mean, Ret/Reckoning is wicked in 1v1 world PvP, and Holy/Prot is disgustingly good in PvP support.

[AshixBorden 4]

Don't say anything negative. It could trigger Theloras and Killerduki.

[Theloras 108]

Don't say anything negative. It could trigger Theloras and Killerduki.

 

Two words...

 

SEAL + TWISTING

[Ironsides 35]

Two words...

 

SEAL + TWISTING

 

Spray gold paint on фекал and it's still фекал, m8.

[Keftenk 0]

All these people with misconceptions about Balance spec. *triggered*

[AshixBorden 4]

Two words...

 

SEAL + TWISTING

I will admit, you have seal of command fixed now. Does that even help though?

[Vaulken 0]

I still love ret but you gotta be level 40 for фекал to really hit the jet fuel can't melt steel beams. It's a lot more fun when you start twisting seals for mana to keep consecrate up, switching between crusader, mana and command. BUT ваууING HELL level 40 man geez. 

[Theloras 108]

I will admit, you have seal of command fixed now. Does that even help though?

Seal of Command’s proc now benefits from Sanctity Aura and has a small delay when triggered.

- this means that we finally have a working Seal of Command

 

Seal of Righteousness can now trigger mainhand weapon procs.

- this is huge as well because now we can go for a full spell damage build and maximize procs from enchants/items/weapons/trinkets such as:

 

Blazefury Medallion

Binds when picked up

Neck

+13 Agility

+14 Stamina

+12 Fire Resistance

Requires Level 60

Equip: Adds 2 fire damage to your melee attacks.

 

Fiery Plate Gauntlets

Binds when equipped

Hands

Plate

379 Armor

+10 Fire Resistance

Durability 45 / 45

Requires Level 53

Equip: Adds 4 fire damage to your weapon attack.

 

Storm Gauntlets

Binds when equipped

Hands

Mail

218 Armor

+7 Intellect

+10 Fire Resistance

Durability 40 / 40

Requires Level 54

Equip: Adds 3 Lightning damage to your melee attacks.

Equip: Increases damage done by Nature spells and effects by up to 21.

 

Fiery Retributer

Binds when picked up

Unique

Main Hand

Sword

56 - 105 Damage

Speed 1.80

(44.7 damage per second)

60 Armor

+7 Strength

Durability 90 / 90

Requires Level 60

Equip: Increased Defense +5.

Equip: Adds 2 fire damage to your melee attacks.

Edited December 17, 2016 by Theloras

[Onslaught 1]

Silly question - this is patch 1.12.1 right? You is there anything special I need Downloaded beyond that ?

[Lady_Aelwen 0]

The moment when you realise that your druid isn't going to have an out-of-combat res...

[Patchi 4]

Edited December 17, 2016 by Slayde