Legacy Gaming Network — A New Chapter Begins...

[Ven 8]

[Ven 8]

4 hours ago, Tyche said:

As of right now, the intention is to keep Elysium servers Vanilla and have Crestfall be the TBC server in our "Legacy Network". There is also the intention of allowing transfers once you hit 60 to head over to a TBC realm, or stay in Vanilla on Elysium forever.

Please make an option to COPY character, not only transfer.

[kyrridas 0]

started reading, and all i could think was, "here we go again"....but then they hinted at TBC and now i cant make my erection go down

[killerduki 54]

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From this point on we will be sharing our passion, experience, developmental, administrative and marketing assets in order to share and grow our community.

Can we have deeper explanation regarding the underline post please?

Some people deserve answers and my experience says that Crestfall is very good with manipulating posts they write with a creative dimensions .

Thank you

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited February 8, 2017 by killerduki

[Stodola 26]

A FAQ about the collaboration will be provided shortly. Until then all information remains speculation and should be taken with many a grain of salt.

[Dragotix 2]

Hope elysium doesnt get a TBC server - don't need that shit at all....

[Spliffrichard 0]

TBC is the first coffin nail of vanilla wow.

[Hypnos 0]

Awesome!  Lets get some type of Battlegroup system in place so everyone can pvp together and not have 4 hour long queues!  :D

[metagame 8]

3 hours ago, taladril said:

We obviously have very different viewpoints when it comes to what is good or bad for the vanilla wow community. For me any server that makes a profit is a bad thing. Any server that does fast xp, instant 60, pay to win, or anything else is a bad thing. Any special server with custom changes, cheaper respec costs, etc etc etc is a bad thing. You provide the world with a perfectly scripted vanilla core and this crap will be everywhere. Anyone can find any flavor of what they want for vanilla. I think you see that as a result of capitalism and would be happy for it. For me I couldn't be more in horror.

What you're saying would be true if it were the case that we will have a perfectly scripted vanilla WoW core within the near future. We won't, not for at least 5 years, IMHO. The amount of work and dedication it would take to make the game even close to perfect is insane. 

If you don't like pay-to-win servers then simply don't spend your time on them. The fact remains: in a world where all servers contributed to open-source, every server would benefit, even the "legit" ones that refuse to implement pay-to-win mechanics.

 

[Banjomissen 0]

Wow, impressive. Great work!

[cybaster 31]

Wow!  This is fascinating. 

[Apophis 1]

Btw, what does PTE stand for?

[Lifealert 19]

aq

[Storfan 24]

8 hours ago, Spliffrichard said:

TBC is the first coffin nail of vanilla wow.

You realise transfers to TBC servers will be entirely optional yes?

[Gehere 8]

18 minutes ago, Storfan said:

You realise transfers to TBC servers will be entirely optional yes?

Don't get me wrong - I'm completely in favor of this news.  I give it a big thumbs up.

But as to it being optional - yes, it may seem so.  But as a few people already mentioned in here, it will be splitting up the community.  More and more people will migrate to the TBC expansion, simply because they'll have a hard time "keeping up" with the hardcore people on Vanilla.   Because of this, they will be thinking -> "I can't compete here, so I might as well move my character past this content, and try for the next.".

This will divide the playerbase - without question.

But if handled correctly - we can all benefit from this.  And that has the be the grand scheme here.  Progress.

[Storfan 24]

20 minutes ago, Gehere said:

Don't get me wrong - I'm completely in favor of this news.  I give it a big thumbs up.

But as to it being optional - yes, it may seem so.  But as a few people already mentioned in here, it will be splitting up the community.  More and more people will migrate to the TBC expansion, simply because they'll have a hard time "keeping up" with the hardcore people on Vanilla.   Because of this, they will be thinking -> "I can't compete here, so I might as well move my character past this content, and try for the next.".

This will divide the playerbase - without question.

But if handled correctly - we can all benefit from this.  And that has the be the grand scheme here.  Progress.

A possible scenario is not having transfers vanilla->tbc but instead copy vanilla->tbc, that way people could play with their characters on both servers, keeping both communities alive.

[Gehere 8]

11 minutes ago, Storfan said:

A possible scenario is not having transfers vanilla->tbc but instead copy vanilla->tbc, that way people could play with their characters on both servers, keeping both communities alive.

A possible scenario indeed.   But it won't make a difference.

You'll just have loads of "abandoned" Vanilla accounts - and see them active on the TBC server(s).   I know what you're getting at, by offering the "copy" scenario, but I personally think, people will focus their activity on whichever expansion has their interest.  Logicly.

I'm not trying to be a devils advocate here - and I'm certainly not against the project - I just think we'll see population drop drastically on all servers, as it spreads out on the options being offered.

This may be good!  Especially since WoW really wasn't made for these high populated servers we're seeing now.   I get people like playing with people.   But there is a limit that many people seem to be ignoring.    Just look at server economy.    Supply and Demand, basically.

Anyways..   I'm getting off-topic.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Gehere

[Storfan 24]

35 minutes ago, Gehere said:

A possible scenario indeed.   But it won't make a difference.

You'll just have loads of "abandoned" Vanilla accounts - and see them active on the TBC server(s).   I know what you're getting at, by offering the "copy" scenario, but I personally think, people will focus their activity on whichever expansion has their interest.  Logicly.

I'm not trying to be a devils advocate here - and I'm certainly not against the project - I just think we'll see population drop drastically on all servers, as it spreads out on the options being offered.

This may be good!  Especially since WoW really wasn't made for these high populated servers we're seeing now.   I get people like playing with people.   But there is a limit that many people seem to be ignoring.    Just look at server economy.    Supply and Demand, basically.

Anyways..   I'm getting off-topic.

Personally, even though I really enjoyed most of TBC, vanilla is simply better in all regards. Also I cleared all content in original TBC while I never completed all of vanilla. I simply wont transfer untill I have Naxx cleared, im an autist completionist in that way.

[Mahtan 15]

13 hours ago, taladril said:

@dragreb The point I am making that you missed because you are still talking hypotheticals is this: If there is only one group of servers out there with true quality and most others are wallowing in stock Mangos then players will gravitate toward the quality and away from the cash shops. Currently we have 2 quality server teams that are (Elysium) or generally are (Crestfall) set with the ideals of providing a service that is non profit and free of pay to win services. We are lucky that the quality and the ideals are together. I'd be having a very different state of mind if the highest quality server was also one that made money. 

To me giving away free leg ups to people that would actively try to make money off of other people is just stupid and you have to admit that a business making money off of open source content is a pretty hypocritical stance to hold in the first place.

qft

Why do they not just work together with one of the many Mangos forks and use github and everyone is happy. I guess it's about power and influence. They should say that at least :P

[Storfan 24]

12 minutes ago, Mahtan said:

qft

Why do they not just work together with one of the many Mangos forks and use github and everyone is happy. I guess it's about power and influence. They should say that at least :P

The sad truth is that if you gave out the source code then the leeching p2w servers could simply adopt the same high quality code as the free high quality ones like this, and keep making money for no effort.

[Mahtan 15]

16 hours ago, Tyche said:

Current Elysium Vanilla servers will always remain Vanilla :)

Thank you for clearing that up. You are my heroes <3

[Asherdoom 5]

for me it was useless to open 4 vanilla servvers, zeth kur drained a lot of ppl from the remaining 3 servers. they should have 3 vanilla and a tbc one. :)

[Forest_ 40]

4 hours ago, Lifealert said:

aq

I think... I think he's trying to tell us something.

 

(But also gib AQ too)

[smokeit 26]

This is fuckin' awesome! Sorry for swearing, but it just is!

[metagame 8]

5 hours ago, Storfan said:

The sad truth is that if you gave out the source code then the leeching p2w servers could simply adopt the same high quality code as the free high quality ones like this, and keep making money for no effort.

That's where agents who compromise their dev team and steal their code come in. ;)

Edited February 9, 2017 by metagame