What is wrong with multiboxing?

[Grizlock 0]

Okay I have read the ToU , and I know 100% it is not allowed. With that said Multiboxing has been a part of WoW and allowed by Blizzard since the very beginning. As long as the characters reacted to a person not a bot. However I can see the unfair advantage it would give some one in PVP. Still just curious why Elysium has chosen not to allow it, when Blizzard did?

[thebleach 3]

Becaue on retail you have to pay per account - On here you pay nothing.

It would mean a massive explosion in population and people running around with 5-10 accounts logged in.

[Mememaster 0]

 

[Grizlock 0]

4 minutes ago, thebleach said:

Becaue on retail you have to pay per account - On here you pay nothing.

It would mean a massive explosion in population and people running around with 5-10 accounts logged in.

Good point, and actually makes sense.

[Storfan 24]

29 minutes ago, Grizlock said:

Okay I have read the ToU , and I know 100% it is not allowed. With that said Multiboxing has been a part of WoW and allowed by Blizzard since the very beginning. As long as the characters reacted to a person not a bot. However I can see the unfair advantage it would give some one in PVP. Still just curious why Elysium has chosen not to allow it, when Blizzard did?

 

15 minutes ago, Grizlock said:

Good point, and actually makes sense.

1. Blizzard only allowed it because it brought more money to their coffers, despite it being detrimental to the overall game experience. Also, it really wasnt common in vanilla or even TBC, average or even powerful PCs simply werent powerful enough. First time I even heard of multiboxing was probably in late wotlk.

2. It speeds up economic inflation which pretty much ruins the fun for everyone.

3. More accounts means more load on servers.

The list goes on. The main point is: it ruins everything.

[Masterbait 10]

1 hour ago, thebleach said:

Becaue on retail you have to pay per account - On here you pay nothing.

It would mean a massive explosion in population and people running around with 5-10 accounts logged in.

That's BS. On servers where MB is legal very few people make use of it. 

[Nelythia 44]

It's not "BS".

 

Its good that multiboxing is blocked.

[Storfan 24]

1 hour ago, Masterbait said:

That's BS. On servers where MB is legal very few people make use of it. 

Old feenix inflated economy would like to have a chat with you.

MB is cancerous. End of discussion.

[Kajjan 3]

Boosting your own characters kinda defeats the point of the game.

[Shiamorah 20]

You can have your guild help boost you :)

[AciDTRiP 2]

Id say it is BS that multiboxing is blocked. It was a part of the "vanilla experience", anyone played against preparedwow back on KJ?

Also  they had the F2P to 20 unlimited trial WOW since what, 2010? 7 years? My friend actually made back in 2010 what i believe was  about 8x trial accounts with instance blues/greens and used his main account as a leader to WRECK low lvl battlegrounds...he showed me a k/d ratio of 300-1 I think and only why he died was due to lagging out(cataclysm autoshot on the move/crazy low lvl pet dmg hunters+broken 2k abs shields at lvl 29 say hello). So "having to pay to multibox in retail" argument is nullified.

Those who against it are shitters and dont know how to pvp. Its really easy to wipe out a multiboxer with all the AoE mages have

[jcochran 1]

Well, there's only 1 good reason in my opinion to multi-box and thankfully, the ToS permits it. To have a character that knows enchanting be able to enchant gear of other alts on the same faction. Make two accounts and in theory have 1 account with up to 1 alliance and 9 horde, and the other account with up to 1 horde and 9 alliance. The two singleton characters know enchanting as one of their professions. Any other use in my opinion is being an abusive guest on the free servers that are being provided for our use.

 

[Shiamorah 20]

1 minute ago, AciDTRiP said:

Id say it is BS that multiboxing is blocked. It was a part of the "vanilla experience", anyone played against preparedwow back on KJ?

Also  they had the F2P to 20 unlimited trial WOW since what, 2010? 7 years? My friend actually made back in 2010 what i believe was  about 8x trial accounts with instance blues/greens and used his main account as a leader to WRECK low lvl battlegrounds...he showed me a k/d ratio of 300-1 I think and only why he died was due to lagging out(cataclysm autoshot on the move/crazy low lvl pet dmg hunters+broken 2k abs shields at lvl 29 say hello). So "having to pay to multibox in retail" argument is nullified.

Those who against it are shitters and dont know how to pvp. Its really easy to wipe out a multiboxer with all the AoE mages have

Should a gold spamming bot be allowed to make and play 10 accounts at the same time?

Edited March 8, 2017 by Shiamorah

[AciDTRiP 2]

whats the difference between ,say his 6 hunters or mages attacking you at the same time and 6 other players attacking you at the same time? None, zero, null. you are going to die in seconds regardless

Edited March 8, 2017 by AciDTRiP

[Revo 34]

allowing it would make things just unnecessarily more difficult for GMs

Edited March 9, 2017 by Revo

[Tanked 2]

There are actually alot of false statements in this thread. The main reason it is not allowed here is purely that it is a free server with no cash shop that relies on donations.

There would not be some huge explosion of the amount of people if it was allowed. I know this as a fact because another private server which is wotlk allows it, even has a dedicated forums section for multiboxers and still all of the active multiboxers barely add up to a drop in the bucket as far as the active population size. Less than 1% the last time I played there and went over the figures.

Can it cause issues in pvp? yes for large scale multiboxers vs uncoordinated groups. The only advantage is coordination, the big disadvantage is mobility.

The economy.... multiboxers can in no way ruin the economy as for example: Say I was multiboxing a team of 5 characters for dungeons, I would still have to gear 5 characters, pay for repairs and consumables for 5 characters, buy mounts, level professions etc as well. The only slight advantage here is more control over the loot, which I have only really seen in groups of friends or guilds that actually look to improve whoevers' gear would benefit from an upgrade the most. To think that you would just simply make 5 times the gold and be super rich controlling the economy is some weird dream of someone that has no experience of it whatsoever.

Even though I am an avid multiboxer (on retail in the past, and private servers that allow it) I do think the people that box 20-40 toons are quite a bit extreme. But 2-5 characters is not bad whatsoever. I did enjoy being more self sufficient and able to help others as well on elite quests or someone that needed a certain dungeon. It really never was about the PVP for me. In fact my only serious PVP multibox team was a team of all healers, for large scale BGs and world PVP to support others.

Either way, I don't see discussions like this influencing the staffs decision on it. But if they did decide to have a change of heart, I would gladly donate on a regular basis, just to help support the server.

[Tanked 2]

Just for giggles I wanted to leave this here for you ;)

[gotmilk0112 10]

On 3/7/2017 at 6:14 AM, thebleach said:

Becaue on retail you have to pay per account - On here you pay nothing.

It would mean a massive explosion in population and people running around with 5-10 accounts logged in.

People like to say this, but in my experiences with multiboxing, it's not true. ESPECIALLY on a 1x rate vanilla server.

 

When I multiboxed on Feenix TBC, which had 14x EXP rates, almost every single person I passed by stopped and stared at me, seemingly surprised to see 5 shamans walking around together. Myself, I very, very rarely came across other multiboxers. I only remember seeing two. Even though boxing was 100% allowed (except in pvp), almost nobody was doing it.

 

So no, allowing multiboxing will not cause everyone to start multiboxing, as you claim.

 

But yeah, it is pretty unfair, given that it doesn't cost anything, so anyone could easily box 5 accounts and farm things faster than a normal player.

 

On 3/7/2017 at 6:38 AM, Storfan said:

2. It speeds up economic inflation which pretty much ruins the fun for everyone.

How?

 

Yeah, you can farm things faster with multiboxing, but almost nobody multiboxes, so that "speeding up inflation" is going to be wholly unnoticeable.

Edited March 9, 2017 by gotmilk0112

[Hurricane2 2]

12 hours ago, Tanked said:

There are actually alot of false statements in this thread. The main reason it is not allowed here is purely that it is a free server with no cash shop that relies on donations.

There would not be some huge explosion of the amount of people if it was allowed. I know this as a fact because another private server which is wotlk allows it, even has a dedicated forums section for multiboxers and still all of the active multiboxers barely add up to a drop in the bucket as far as the active population size. Less than 1% the last time I played there and went over the figures.

Can it cause issues in pvp? yes for large scale multiboxers vs uncoordinated groups. The only advantage is coordination, the big disadvantage is mobility.

The economy.... multiboxers can in no way ruin the economy as for example: Say I was multiboxing a team of 5 characters for dungeons, I would still have to gear 5 characters, pay for repairs and consumables for 5 characters, buy mounts, level professions etc as well. The only slight advantage here is more control over the loot, which I have only really seen in groups of friends or guilds that actually look to improve whoevers' gear would benefit from an upgrade the most. To think that you would just simply make 5 times the gold and be super rich controlling the economy is some weird dream of someone that has no experience of it whatsoever.

Even though I am an avid multiboxer (on retail in the past, and private servers that allow it) I do think the people that box 20-40 toons are quite a bit extreme. But 2-5 characters is not bad whatsoever. I did enjoy being more self sufficient and able to help others as well on elite quests or someone that needed a certain dungeon. It really never was about the PVP for me. In fact my only serious PVP multibox team was a team of all healers, for large scale BGs and world PVP to support others.

Either way, I don't see discussions like this influencing the staffs decision on it. But if they did decide to have a change of heart, I would gladly donate on a regular basis, just to help support the server.

Pretty much everything you said is incorrect because of your obvious bias.

Lack of cash shop is irrelevant.

There wouldn't be an explosion of characters but there obviously would be significantly more if it were allowed.

In wpvp you're generally turning a 1v1 into 1v5.  This is dumb.

The number 1 problem with multi boxing is the inflation of the economy.  5 chars = 5x more gold.

As far as liking to be self sufficient and helping others you can do all that just fine with 1 character.

I can't think of a single reason why multi boxing would be good for the community.

Edited March 9, 2017 by Hurricane2

[Hughman 0]

1 hour ago, Hurricane2 said:

In wpvp you're generally turning a 1v1 into 1v5.  This is dumb.

The number 1 problem with multi boxing is the inflation of the economy.  5 chars = 5x more gold.

I'll address these two thoughts myself, because they are not fact. PvP when multiboxing, isn't really that great.. You have full control on 1 character and the rest follow and assist target, you cant move them without alt tabbing. However having 40 shamans all casting chain lightning is gonna blow people up, but if someone only had two characters or five, it isn't really that easy to hold off someone if they go for your other toons. PvP and WPvP wont be an issue so long as it was kept to about 3 players.

 

The guy addressed that having 5 characters doesn't mean 5x gold, and he's absolutely correct. The only 'extra' gold you get is from quests, otherwise, you all share the same loot. Oh but he didn't mention he has to buy all the skills for those characters. You don't make more gold whatsoever.

[Oakenlix 79]

Btw, OP is the same guy who asked for a second PvE realm because he didn't want to make a second account for all his alts, lol.

On topic - multiboxing is a creepy autistic tryhard shit, and the rules in ToU are perfect in this regard.

 

Edited March 9, 2017 by Oakenlix

[Hurricane2 2]

1 hour ago, Hughman said:

I'll address these two thoughts myself, because they are not fact. PvP when multiboxing, isn't really that great.. You have full control on 1 character and the rest follow and assist target, you cant move them without alt tabbing. However having 40 shamans all casting chain lightning is gonna blow people up, but if someone only had two characters or five, it isn't really that easy to hold off someone if they go for your other toons. PvP and WPvP wont be an issue so long as it was kept to about 3 players.

 

The guy addressed that having 5 characters doesn't mean 5x gold, and he's absolutely correct. The only 'extra' gold you get is from quests, otherwise, you all share the same loot. Oh but he didn't mention he has to buy all the skills for those characters. You don't make more gold whatsoever.

I'm only talking about random world PvP.  Multi boxing bgs would be awful.

5x1 is 5.  You get everything instead 1/5 like normal group participation.  4 extra chars is a lot of inflation coming from just 1 person.

[Hughman 0]

22 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

I'm only talking about random world PvP.  Multi boxing bgs would be awful.

5x1 is 5.  You get everything instead 1/5 like normal group participation.  4 extra chars is a lot of inflation coming from just 1 person.

You could take a person multiboxing 5 toons with 2 or 3 people total. git gud then m8. ;)

[Hurricane2 2]

Cool story but that's not what I was referring to.

[gotmilk0112 10]

On 3/9/2017 at 11:18 AM, Hurricane2 said:

Pretty much everything you said is incorrect because of your obvious bias.

great way to start a post, decry the other person as "obviously biased"

rofl

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There wouldn't be an explosion of characters but there obviously would be significantly more if it were allowed.

Again, in all my years of WoW private servers, multiboxers were always very rare, even on servers where it was allowed.

This slippery-slope argument of "ohh if multiboxing is allowed then EVERYONE WILL MULTIBOX!11!!" is demonstrably false.

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In wpvp you're generally turning a 1v1 into 1v5.  This is dumb.

Then make multiboxing in PvP against the rules. Feenix does that.

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The number 1 problem with multi boxing is the inflation of the economy.  5 chars = 5x more gold.

Uh...no, 5x characters does not equal "5x gold".

You could theoretically farm 5x as fast, but that does not equate to "5x gold", because you're still getting the same drops at the same drop rates, and you're still limited by spawn rates and other people farming in the area. And if we're talking about instances, then you're still limited by 5 instances per hour, which can be done on 1 character instead of 5.

Edited March 11, 2017 by gotmilk0112