Stop Premades or Enable Double Que

[flowqz 34]

1 hour ago, flowqz said:

 

alliance has less players but got 1st lv60 player, 1st rag, 1st azu 1st kazzak and has way more high ranked guys.

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Ranking.aspx?Bosses=00010203040506070809&realm=Ely&ClassLimit=All&FactionLimit=Ho

 

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Ranking.aspx?Bosses=00010203040506070809&realm=Ely&ClassLimit=All&FactionLimit=Al

 

dunno if this satisfies your needs. but i think you are able to fap to this evidence you desperatly needed.

if its still not enough u could ask the elysium dev team for additional data.

[Wrathran 4]

15 minutes ago, Cleave_GG said:

look ally/horde ratio then pve content cleared/speeds what more u want m8

The claim was that Alliance have x50 times more "super nerds". The claim was not that Alliance have more active players. To claim that alliance have more active players is a totally reasonable claim, does not require much evidence. But to claim that Alliance have x50! times more active players (word used was "super nerds" but I assume it actually means "very active"), well that's an extraordinary claim and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[flowqz 34]

3 minutes ago, Wrathran said:

The claim was that Alliance have x50 times more "super nerds". The claim was not that Alliance have more active players. To claim that alliance have more active players is a totally reasonable claim, does not require much evidence. But to claim that Alliance have x50! times more active players (word used was "super nerds" but I assume it actually means "very active"), well that's an extraordinary claim and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

its called hyperbole. r u autistic?

[Hurricane2 2]

8 minutes ago, flowqz said:

its called hyperbole. r u autistic?

This is what it looks like when someone loses an argument and doesn't want to admit it.

[Cleave_GG 0]

fk ur a nerd m8

[Wrathran 4]

43 minutes ago, Cleave_GG said:

fk ur a nerd m8

Says the dude who plays vanilla wow. Well, I presume.

[Slicy 11]

Less QQ more pew pew is the answer to all your concerns.

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

lol this is a fucking great thread ty Wrathran for your logical rationalization with these shitters for dinners.

[flowqz 34]

15 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

This is what it looks like when someone loses an argument and doesn't want to admit it.

if someone really thinks "x50" is a serious claim and not exaggerated at all i guess im talking to 12y olds, who take everything literal.

 

[Slicy 11]

You can't be taken seriously when you are begging :

- To disable the core essence of the game, which is team play and organization as a group to succeed/achieve something you can't alone (solo farming a raid is a retail thing).

- To enable multi queue (which didn't even come until way later in vanilla) and create an even worse situation for everyone, because dodging and BG hopping just makes premades dodge each other, pugs fill the game instead of them and you will cry so harder we could refuel an ocean with your tears. You would get a very toxic BG environment. I don't think you ever played on a server with multiqueue enabled to actually ask for it like you do. Or perhaps you're that kind of shitters who think ranking by BG hopping makes them deserve their ranks ?

In the end you already have a solution : get your own group going and see if you can beat those premade players you hate so much. I heard you'd also get ez honor if you don't suck at the game.

[sirtokealot 0]

In vanilla you could queue for all 3 battlegrounds st once. And jump grom inside 1 game to another

 

[Slicy 11]

Yeah and 12 years later it's just being abused to create empty games and wintrade so much you would need GMs monitoring every single opening game 24/7. There is a reason it's disabled. The downsides are so dire your BG situation will gain nothing positive from it. Also, it only came with 1.9, which is months away for Elysium PvP.

[Denver! 0]

as a horde player, i've found it actually easier to rank up at 49 and 59 bracekets than lvl 60 pvp. 

 

i mean a vast majority (95%) games at 60 have been 5 cap ABs where the losing side can't even kill 1 alliance and end up with literally 0 honor. 

 

I think they should allow a party size (5) to be able to que together in wsg, and (10) in AB. This would create some more unpredictability in the games but still favor the side that parties up.

 

just a thought!

[Justme 9]

4 minutes ago, Denver! said:

as a horde player, i've found it actually easier to rank up at 49 and 59 bracekets than lvl 60 pvp. 

 

i mean a vast majority (95%) games at 60 have been 5 cap ABs where the losing side can't even kill 1 alliance and end up with literally 0 honor. 

 

I think they should allow a party size (5) to be able to que together in wsg, and (10) in AB. This would create some more unpredictability in the games but still favor the side that parties up.

 

just a thought!

I think you should form your own raidgroup if you wanna compete against other raidgroups.

[Denver! 0]

15 minutes ago, Justme said:

I think you should form your own raidgroup if you wanna compete against other raidgroups.

 i don't want to compete against raid groups.. that's the point!!

PUG pvp is beautiful. It's a creative, messy, sort of hodgepodge-y, and unpredictable type of game.. and overall one of the best gaming experiences i've ever had which is why the current state of PVP on this server saddens me.

 if you don't think the gear disparity issue is a problem then you are blind, sir. sure i could form my own group right now but they would still get wrecked because of the incredibly lop-sided honor gains the past months. I don't blame alliance players for wanting to keep the current system.. they are banking!

 

if you don't think the system is broken then that is your opinion. but i think when over 95%+ of the games I enter have 0 pvp action, then what is the point? man, i'm just trying to play a few games of AB for fun. this is not pvp.

 

take my thoughts with a grain of salt but i've been playing WoW since early 2005 and vanilla servers since  TBC. I have never seen such anti-competitive behavior than what I see today.

[Parla 1]

50 minutes ago, Denver! said:

 i don't want to compete against raid groups.. that's the point!!

PUG pvp is beautiful. It's a creative, messy, sort of hodgepodge-y, and unpredictable type of game.. and overall one of the best gaming experiences i've ever had which is why the current state of PVP on this server saddens me.

 if you don't think the gear disparity issue is a problem then you are blind, sir. sure i could form my own group right now but they would still get wrecked because of the incredibly lop-sided honor gains the past months. I don't blame alliance players for wanting to keep the current system.. they are banking!

 

if you don't think the system is broken then that is your opinion. but i think when over 95%+ of the games I enter have 0 pvp action, then what is the point? man, i'm just trying to play a few games of AB for fun. this is not pvp.

 

take my thoughts with a grain of salt but i've been playing WoW since early 2005 and vanilla servers since  TBC. I have never seen such anti-competitive behavior than what I see today.

So you think that you as a solo player should have your needs satisfied but the people actually organizing premades shouldn't?
This is Blizzlike and that is how it is supposed to be. There will be less and less premades queueing as they finish up. All the organized rankers are almost done so the problem will resolve itself.

[Muldreg 3]

59 minutes ago, Denver! said:

 if you don't think the gear disparity issue is a problem then you are blind, sir. sure i could form my own group right now but they would still get wrecked because of the incredibly lop-sided honor gains the past months. I don't blame alliance players for wanting to keep the current system.. they are banking!

 

On 4/10/2017 at 1:12 AM, Pilule said:

Actually the number of High ranks for horde and alliance is very similar

Horde :

2 R14

6 R13

28 R12

Alliance :

1 R14

13 R13

29 R12

Assuming this is correct, based off realmplayers.com (which is player update driven, so not 100% accurate) it appears to me that many Horde just choose NOT to group, whereas Alliance are opting to form groups instead of pugging.

Basically you want to punish these Alliance players for spending weeks grouping and collecting this gear, because you were unable to put the time/effort in that they have? You just want to play people at your gear level? This isn't retail... you don't get matched with people at your MMR. Welcome to Vanilla

You cannot complain about premades when they have found the best way to gain the honor they need to continue to rank and gain this gear. You can however complain about players of your faction being afk or rolling over constantly instead of trying. The system has and will always be flawed in vanilla.

As Parla mentions, enjoy getting into BGs now, because once a large number of these groups are done ranking, you may be sitting in PvP queues for hours at a time.

[Garun 9]

The only problem that needs to be addressed is the gear difference. They need to hotfix the ranking system to be based on the total honor of each faction so there will always be equal amounts of high ranking players. Otherwise you should just form premades yourself.

[Justme 9]

11 hours ago, zmandude24 said:

The only problem that needs to be addressed is the gear difference. They need to hotfix the ranking system to be based on the total honor of each faction so there will always be equal amounts of high ranking players. Otherwise you should just form premades yourself.

Standings are based on honor of your faction. What the other faction has is not relevant

[Vollfos 2]

In dont know the core , but rank 14 schould be serverwide not faction.

[Parla 1]

1 hour ago, Vollfos said:

In dont know the core , but rank 14 schould be serverwide not faction.

Since when? Honor brackets were always faction wide.

[TTL 6]

On 4/11/2017 at 7:20 AM, Parla said:

Alliance has 6+ premades running 20 hours a day.
Horde has 1 premade at most and they only like 2-3 hours at a time.

Get some of these basement dwellers on your faction to reroll horde and balance it out.

[Garun 9]

6 hours ago, Justme said:

Standings are based on honor of your faction. What the other faction has is not relevant

Oh never mind then. Horde just needs to git gud

[Wrathran 4]

This is NOT a question about battleground queues etc. This whole thread can be summarized like this:

 

OP don't want Elysium to be a "blizz like" server.

 

It doesn't matter the slightest if he is right and come with awesome ideas and suggestions. All that matters is this:

 

Should Elysium continue to be a "blizz like" server.

The answer is plain and simple, yes, so this whole thread is invalid and pointless even if I actually agree on the topic and think it's a nice idea, it's pointless because it's a "blizz like" server and adding non "blizz like" features is not possible no matter how good they may be. It can always be fun to discuss things so in that regard it's not pointless though.

[nooobieee 3]

6 hours ago, Wrathran said:

OP don't want Elysium to be a "blizz like" server.

"blizz like" is not "blizz clone". The server is not a "blizz clone", how far from clone the server gets is up to the owners of the server. Your notion that not "blizz like" is some valid argument against any idea is specious. It's not "blizz like" to have a server with over a hundred guilds that have cleared BWL and no expansion coming. It's not "blizz like" to have a much larger population on one server. It's not "blizz like" to have 3 servers total... the list goes on and on.