Warlock Versus Mage: Which class is in higher demand?

[ohsnoes 0]

I mained as a healer on Nost Pve, and am looking forward to the opening of the fresh start pvp realm, alas while I have narrowed it down to two classes I have not been able to decide on which one. I am wondering if I am more likely to get groups/raids/guilds with which class. I know how to play both classes, but I never knew which class was in higher demand.

 

I enjoy both pvp and pve. 

 

Sorry to bother you all and thank you for your time.

[SikSan 4]

Mage is one of the most played classes. There are always $hit ton of mages.

Edited November 28, 2016 by SikSan

[gotmilk0112 10]

Warlocks, always. Summons and soulstones are incredibly useful and always appreciated.

 

Locks are also way easier to level.

[Shayss 43]

I mained as a healer on Nost Pve, and am looking forward to the opening of the fresh start pvp realm, alas while I have narrowed it down to two classes I have not been able to decide on which one. I am wondering if I am more likely to get groups/raids/guilds with which class. I know how to play both classes, but I never knew which class was in higher demand.

 

I enjoy both pvp and pve. 

 

Sorry to bother you all and thank you for your time.

 

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I don't care what class you wana play.

[Tholren 7]

My advice is that you play warlock if you want to meet the demand.

 

However, because people tend to forget that vanilla raids let you bring 40 people in but weren't necessarily designed with a necessity of having 40 people inside the raid to beat the boss, thus allowing one to not have to be spectacular in everything one does and consequently diminishing the need to "meet the demand" in all aspects, what I truly advice (and oh god, I hope you follow this one to the letter) is that you pick something you like to play, and assuming you aren't a potato head that can't distinguish left from right not only will you find a spot in a raiding guild, you will have fun doing so.

[Danko 1]

Warlock, there will be a crapton of mages running around.

[Lootolf 0]

Soulstones, banish (Garr looking at you), good aoe endgame, beautiful gearsets, easy to level, and handy in pvp. Roll Lock ... especially since frost mages will flood the server xD

[Drain 19]

Mage is the better class and thus has far more players.

Warlock is less contested as a result.

 

Guilds slot both, but would rather and almost always have more Mages because they have to buff the whole raid, on top of being a water vendor, the better damage dealer, and having the best AOE. Warlocks are slotted because the guild can't find enough Mages for all of the slots, and getting both helps to spread out gear competition. The few things Warlock brings make them worth it (Curse, Soulstone, Banish); you just don't need to stack them. A stack of Mages makes more sense.

 

There's 2 main factors when it comes to damage dealing that results in the Mage being top. First, the debuff limit renders dots pretty much useless. A Warlock needs debuff slots for its maximum damage potential; these are supposed to be ticking while they are nuking. This extra damage is lost in raids because there's no room for the debuffs. Secondly, Mages have talents to reduce their threat produced (In Fire or Frost, 30% each). This means Mages carry no real risk of ever pulling a boss. Warlocks however, in Classic, have zero methods of controlling threat. They literally just have to stop casting, doing nothing, for the threat to slowly decline on the meters. (Warriors have the same problem vs Rogues) This is an issue that was fixed in BC, where Blizzard finally decided to give Warlocks anti threat abilities. They also gave Warriors a Fury talent that reduces threat. Note that both of these changes come on top of the class swap, which allowed Horde to get Blessing of Salvation. In Classic, this OP buff is restricted to the Alliance.

[meddlingmage 3]

Mage is the better class and thus has far more players.

Warlock is less contested as a result.

 

Guilds slot both, but would rather and almost always have more Mages because they have to buff the whole raid, on top of being a water vendor, the better damage dealer, and having the best AOE. Warlocks are slotted because the guild can't find enough Mages for all of the slots, and getting both helps to spread out gear competition. The few things Warlock brings make them worth it (Curse, Soulstone, Banish); you just don't need to stack them. A stack of Mages makes more sense.

 

There's 2 main factors when it comes to damage dealing that results in the Mage being top. First, the debuff limit renders dots pretty much useless. A Warlock needs debuff slots for its maximum damage potential; these are supposed to be ticking while they are nuking. This extra damage is lost in raids because there's no room for the debuffs. Secondly, Mages have talents to reduce their threat produced (In Fire or Frost, 30% each). This means Mages carry no real risk of ever pulling a boss. Warlocks however, in Classic, have zero methods of controlling threat. They literally just have to stop casting, doing nothing, for the threat to slowly decline on the meters. (Warriors have the same problem vs Rogues) This is an issue that was fixed in BC, where Blizzard finally decided to give Warlocks anti threat abilities. They also gave Warriors a Fury talent that reduces threat. Note that both of these changes come on top of the class swap, which allowed Horde to get Blessing of Salvation. In Classic, this OP buff is restricted to the Alliance.

Man that is one compelling argument against warlocks. I'm stuck b/t these two classes as well but I'd say I'm about 80% leaning toward a lock verus 20% leaning towards a mage. I just don't want to roll mage if they are overly populated you know? I'd rather feel like a special flower than just another sheep.

 

But we all know that water vendors are here to please

[Draegon 1]

In terms of demand, warlock hands down. 

[rikkisix 0]

PVP and PVE Warlocks are ALWAYS in demmand since everyone plays mages in some form IF you're horde UD MAGE EVERY where, although you'll always be wanted as a mage. You may get into more core teams as a lock and fed gear, since there's always more mages then locks. (I've seen atleast.)

[Milarepa 1]

Here is a recent poll from Nost reddit:  http://www.strawpoll.me/11733989/r

 

It's not going to be 100% accurate but 2k votes is a lot.

 

As the poll shows, alliance may be short on rogues, priests, maybe druids.  Warlock looks neutral, but there certainly shouldn't be more locks than priests.

 

Horde seems to have too many locks and too many mages.  Horde is lacking all healing classes.

 

I am rolling Gnome Warlock this time around, for the first time.  I think a few people are thinking the same way because grinding for the 40 mount is awful.  If it seems like there will be too many locks then I'll go priest.  It makes the game so much better to play a high demand class compared to a very low demand class.

[Kazuma 11]

Warlock is more versatile, mage is higher dps.

[Klimpen 1]

Warlocks were in higher demand on old Nost, though it is likely this will not be the case on the fresh realm.

[meddlingmage 3]

Warlocks were in higher demand on old Nost, though it is likely this will not be the case on the fresh realm.

Why

[Shayss 43]

Why

 

It's more a case of mages being so popular compared to warlocks..

 

There were a LOT of mages on Nost, mostly used in DM:E farm and as peoples alts for water/food and portals.

[Pishy 0]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyzwh6PZ8Rk

 

Don't end up being the mages bit-ch (curse of elements). I mained a lock, too. I was radical enough to even leave my guild if they didn't allow me to use all my dots! I was happy enough to be real life "friends" with one of my raidguild leader - we went to the same school. So by far not all locks had the pleasure to be on top of penis- uhhh i mean damage-meters. However nowadays guilds are much more open for people to let them play their class as they want, even in raids. 16 slot debuff limit is a pain tho - 8 slot debuff limit is a pure JOKE for all locks. I am not thinking about these times anymore as they were too much pain as a warlock lel.

Edited November 30, 2016 by Pishy

[Undertanker 88]

Warlock is more versatile, mage is higher dps.

For earlier content. End game, lock does more dps, and isn't dependent on ignite to do it.

[Drain 19]

I'd prefer Warlock myself. No one pestering me for water all the time=good. I have my own Mage to trade the фекал to myself, problem solved.

[Banezilla 2]

I always preferred to have a mage in my 5man groups over a lock. As far as raiding goes locks are more in demand.

[Undertanker 88]

I always preferred to have a mage in my 5man groups over a lock. As far as raiding goes locks are more in demand.

I prefer lock in my 5 man speed clears since my preferred druid can handle decurse and use HoTs on the lock and they can mind tap to never stop pulling.

[Budskah 0]

On the mount topic a Mage can and should use their ports and food making abilities to make the gold needed for their mounts. If you haven't tried this I suggest you do, as a warlock I happily have a mage friend that is willing to trade cookies for food and possibly a port somewhere.

Personally I will be leveling both. Investing most of my time into my lock first. If my leveling exp is anything like on nost having an alt to go do other things on while your main is being ganked is good lol.

[Destron 2]

If my leveling exp is anything like on nost having an alt to go do other things on while your main is being ganked is good lol.

 

Thank you for this, this is an aspect I hadn't considered but is probably good advice to avoid some grief sessions. 

[AshixBorden 4]

Iirc, the last few months saw a huge increase in mages due to the fact a lot of them were DM farming bots.