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Just think about it.  Do we want to be stuck with the only option of accessing Vanilla content being pseudo-blizzlike emulators?  We need to change, because this is only leading to infinite private servers. 

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I stand by Nain.  In fact, I'm standing so close to Nain, that you could even say that I..... STAND ON HIM!!!

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I belive many people stated would gladly pay a fee to play . Of course would be the matter that are still a lot of people that would prefer to not pay . 

Bottom line is , Blizzard is always late to the party with everything . With Dota with Diablo etc . They simply do not care about comunity , it is all about the cash ! 

I wish though they make Vanilla and evolve it in a paralel universe separate from what it is now ( seems most don't like it that much ) . 

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2 minutes ago, HoneyBadger said:

I belive many people stated would gladly pay a fee to play . Of course would be the matter that are still a lot of people that would prefer to not pay . 

Bottom line is , Blizzard is always late to the party with everything . With Dota with Diablo etc . They simply do not care about comunity , it is all about the cash ! 

I wish though they make Vanilla and evolve it in a paralel universe separate from what it is now ( seems most don't like it that much ) . 

That's a wonderful idea.  If Elysium started charging players to access their servers, we could irrefutably prove to Blizzard just how much money they could be making.

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1 minute ago,  Nain said:

That's a wonderful idea.  If Elysium started charging players to access their servers, we could irrefutably prove to Blizzard just how much money they could be making.

And then Blizz will have a reason to prosecute them  . So...nope ! not the best ideea !  

 

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6 minutes ago,  Nain said:

Just think about it.  Do we want to be stuck with the only option of accessing Vanilla content being pseudo-blizzlike emulators?  We need to change, because this is only leading to infinite private servers. 

well, but theres not much we can do to change this. we signed a petition and stated a thousand times that we want vanilla legacy servers. "we" have done more than one can expect. its time to stop suffering and trying to get into blizz ass. its their turn, they have to make the next move. not me, not you, not us, not nostalrius.

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Absolutely agree.  We as the player base have consistently demonstrated that we are committed to these servers, we've done our part, so if Blizzard want us to stop playing private servers, they need to give us an alternative.  Legion is not an alternative, it's a completely different game altogether.

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2 hours ago,  Nain said:

Just think about it.  Do we want to be stuck with the only option of accessing Vanilla content being pseudo-blizzlike emulators?  We need to change, because this is only leading to infinite private servers. 

Do you seriously think that even 5% of the playerbase gives a single фекал about principles?

People are happy to support a Blizzard hosted legacy server.  But we are perfectly happy to play on a private server if that is our only option 

Also this idea that the promotion of private servers somehow hinders the possibility of legacy servers is completely bogus.

This is business 101.  Where there is a demand, there is the opportunity to profit.  The bigger Elysium gets, the more viable legacy servers become.

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Why support a cause that has totally self destructed?

Nostalrius has already cut ties with Blizzard by releasing the code and character database to Elysium. Now it has burned its bridges with the legacy community by asking for it back. 

Nostalrius has no longer has any legitimacy to represent the legacy project. 

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I saw this on reddit

 

and yea, this makes sense

so stop blaming nost, this is going as planned

 

The Nost team HAD to know they would get another cease & desist, so they planned it out so that people would have at least two-weeks to a month to transfer characters and start up on Elysium, KNOWING that at some point that letter would come. At which point, they would HAVE to stop transfers and make a public announcement in good faith. Ask everyone to not play any longer and please, Elysium wink wink, stop using our database and code. And Elysium would respond, "ofcourse, we've already transitioned all your fixes to our own code, we will change the name of the servers. No problemo guys. We'll go ahead and keep the characters already transferred though." Lets Nost off the hook and if Elysium doesn't care about C&D, bam.

Elysium wouldn't have to change up anything (whose going to check on the code?), have a 30 minute downtime to rename servers, voila. Brilliant.

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I wouldn't mind playing to play, just pool all the money and go drop it at blizzard every month like a shady drug deal >)

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45 minutes ago, TheHappyCatsTail said:

Blizzard don't give a shit about this community. This much is glaringly obvious. the legacy horse needs to spot being beaten because it's not going to happen. and even if it did guys do you really think blizzard wouldn't mess with the model by offering 60 boosts for $$$ etc? I say we focus on what we actually do have right now and that's Elysium. 

^This

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1 hour ago, TheHappyCatsTail said:

Blizzard don't give a фекал about this community. This much is glaringly obvious. the legacy horse needs to spot being beaten because it's not going to happen. and even if it did guys do you really think blizzard wouldn't mess with the model by offering 60 boosts for $$$ etc? I say we focus on what we actually do have right now and that's Elysium. 

I can't seem to find the like button, but what this guy has it right

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1 hour ago, TheHappyCatsTail said:

Blizzard don't give a фекал about this community. This much is glaringly obvious. the legacy horse needs to spot being beaten because it's not going to happen. and even if it did guys do you really think blizzard wouldn't mess with the model by offering 60 boosts for $$$ etc? I say we focus on what we actually do have right now and that's Elysium. 

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Keeping this running in no way stops official servers from happening. This is what morons can't seem to realize. If anything, it encourages them. We should have this option until (IF) official hosts it. Not shutdown then pray for miracles. Fuck Nostalrius, good riddance. If they had their way, we'd never have a server anymore, because we'd spend the next century waiting for Blizzard to do it, or until we're all dead, one or the other. I'll take this over nothing. If you want the nothing, then simply don't play.

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Blizzard still doesnt think their is enough interest in legacy servers...they think its all about nostalgia and they think we want those shit "pristine servers". We need to keep playing these "pirate" legacy servers to show them they are wrong. We need to keep growing in numbers and prove them wrong. Putting an end to the realms  isn't going to solve anything Nostalrius! Didn't you learn anything from that long silence for months?

 

Geez its like they totally forgot that long silence/ignore since the meeting, why would anything else work?

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4 hours ago,  Nain said:

Just think about it.  Do we want to be stuck with the only option of accessing Vanilla content being pseudo-blizzlike emulators?  We need to change, because this is only leading to infinite private servers. 

We're only stuck with "infinite private servers" because Blizzard adamantly refuses to host a vanilla server

 

People have been asking about legacy realms since ~2009, and every single time, Blizzard refuses.

 

Nostalrius is on some kind of fucked up drug if they think shutting down private servers will convince blizz to open a vanilla realm. You should not be supporting a group that gave us their core/character data, then 4 weeks later, demands them back and wants to keep pushing Blizzard for legacy even though Blizzard has been SILENT about the issue for like 8 months now.

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IF blizzard actually cared they would have already offered Legacy servers years ago.
Every Blizzcon someone asks, and they get humiliated by the blizzard developers. 

The Nost team is strictly jealous at this point that Elysium has so much success. 

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56 minutes ago, Killershama said:

Blizzard still doesnt think their is enough interest in legacy servers...they think its all about nostalgia and they think we want those фекал "pristine servers". We need to keep playing these "pirate" legacy servers to show them they are wrong. We need to keep growing in numbers and prove them wrong. Putting an end to the realms  isn't going to solve anything Nostalrius! Didn't you learn anything from that long silence for months?

 

Geez its like they totally forgot that long silence/ignore since the meeting, why would anything else work?

I keep hearing about these pristine servers/realms. Anything I google about them leads to discussions about Nost and official vanilla realms. Whats the difference between them and pirate servers such as this, and why are the considered фекал by pretty much the whole community? I'm kind of out of the loop :D

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I don't support Nost because I don't support Blizzard.

It's not the same Blizzard. I mean, it's ACTUALLY not the same people. The people who built the game, who poured their hearts into it, who loved it and the players who loved their creation. Almost all of them are gone. 

The people who are there now are... well I actually have no idea what they are because I have no idea WHO they are. But they aren't connected with the community. They aren't connected with the game. They don't seem to even know the lore, and they sure as hell don't know how to keep the game going in the right direction. 

So would I ever support Blizzard again? Sure, if they rehired the people who actually care about the game they created and the players who made the game so popular. 

As of right now, Nost and Blizzard can both suck it.

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So what youre saying OP, is that you don't really ever want to play Vanilla Wow again. Cause the private server scene is the only place it's ever going to happen. 

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2 hours ago, Altan said:

I keep hearing about these pristine servers/realms. Anything I google about them leads to discussions about Nost and official vanilla realms. Whats the difference between them and pirate servers such as this, and why are the considered фекал by pretty much the whole community? I'm kind of out of the loop :D

When asked about private servers, Blizzard once brought up  the idea of "Pristine Servers"...which are literally the same thing as retail, but with LFD disabled.

 

No, seriously, that's the only difference. Pristine servers have no LFD system. That's it.

 

Blizzard seriously thinks that LFD is the only problem people have with retail WoW, and that vanilla players would gladly play retail if it didn't have LFD

 

still makes me kek, how fucking deluded they seem to be

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It was their clever idea of doing nothing for us while trying to pretend they were. Deleting a few things is easy. Recreating older versions of the game is not.

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12 hours ago,  Nain said:

Just think about it.  Do we want to be stuck with the only option of accessing Vanilla content being pseudo-blizzlike emulators?  We need to change, because this is only leading to infinite private servers. 

You are a retard.

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