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[Maage 1]

I hope a lot of hunters are ready to get banned. Pottu didn't exactly mention WHAT pets are currently showing immunity to players attacks. So if I roll to a hunter and use my pet to attack some Alli and I don't notice that my pet is immune (probably because I'm using my other skills) and a GM sees this, I'm going to get banned? Seems pretty unfair.

And I actually don't even have a hunter to roll on, so as a mage (who gets fucked on by Alli hunters) can you let us know which pets so that i don't fuck with the wrong guy?

 

If you say that Boar pets are showing immunity, then I won't fuck with anyone with a Boar. Simple as that. But we kinda need to know which pets to avoid, and if we have said pet then we need to know NOT to use them.

 

thanks.

[Worldstar 36]

It's pretty obvious if your pet is invincible.

[Maage 1]

1 minute ago, Worldstar said:

It's pretty obvious if your pet is invincible.

sure, if you're doing the typical hunter "pet attack. auto shoot. masterbait" you'll realize your pet is God. But what if I send my pet to attack and I get ganked (possibly from behind) so I'm not even looking at my pet anymore. I'd be more focused on the Alli in front of me. This is bannable?

[mytchi3 1]

It was not pets being immune to dmg but for example certain bats kept their cc immunities to fears. To a hunter its pretty obvious its not a resist but immune to cc

[khalismur 6]

2 hours ago, Maage said:

I'm not even looking at my pet anymore. I'd be more focused on the Alli in front of me. This is bannable?

Dude..... you have two eyes, like all hunters without eye-patches.

The left eye ALWAYS on pet, the right on on the enemy. I ban them, yes.

[Ntbud 14]

He's talking about the Blind Hunter rare spawn from RFK. It's a giant brown bat, looks like the Kraul Bats in RFK. It's not god like in leveling or anything like that, it's damage is what it should be. It's just that when you try to fear it or use other types of CC on it you'll get the "Immune" message. Pretty fucking amazing in PvP

[Midoriko 2]

I wonder if Snarlr still has +100 base resist all before pet talents, or was it removed like the proc from the Blade of Eternal Darkness?

[gotmilk0112 10]

Nope, Snarler does not have his resists.

 

It seems that some pets like Lupos and Takk still retain their special traits, while others don't.

 

The pet that Pottu is talking about is Blind Hunter bat from RFK. At the moment, it is immune to most CC effects, which is a bug.

Edited March 3, 2017 by gotmilk0112

[Masterbait 10]

8 hours ago, Maage said:

"pet attack. auto shoot. masterbait" 

What? 

[khalismur 6]

16 hours ago, gotmilk0112 said:

It seems that some pets like Lupos and Takk still retain their special traits, while others don't.

Is there a list for such pets pre-normalizing? What is special about Takk?

[gotmilk0112 10]

2 hours ago, khalismur said:

Is there a list for such pets pre-normalizing? What is special about Takk?

Takk the Leaper is supposed to move way faster than most pets. He does...but on these servers, the move speed increase is not as much as it was on retail.

[Slicy 11]

Class mechanics are supposed to 1.12 on this project. This includes pet related things for Hunters. You are able to tame pets you wouldn't prior to end-vanilla patches. You have all available pet abilities among which a bunch only came with patch 1.9, etc.

Every pet should have a normalized pursuit speed :

(Patch 1.9) "Base pet speed is now standardized for all pets, including legacy pets. Pet speed can still be modified through the talent Bestial Swiftness and pet abilities such as Charge, Dash, etc."

Takk the Leaper wasn't even the fastest pet (from a very detailed guide) :

"A number of pets fell into the fast (145%) category: most cats, most tallstriders, a bunch of windserpents, and scattered other pets like Takk the Leaper, Ressen the Needler, the Longtooth Runner, etc.

The very fast (200%+) category held just a few pets: namely the Frostwolves from Alterac Valley, and the Bloodseeker Bat and Spawn of Mar'li spider from Zul'Gurub."

"Starting with Patch 1.9, all pets have a base pursuit speed of 115%. There are no more slow pets, no more fast pets, no more very fast pets; they all have an average pursuit speed.

The speed of existing pets is affected as well as the speed of newly tamed pets. If you had previously tamed a Frostwolf, that pet will now pursue a good bit more slowly than it did before. On the other hand, if you had previously tamed Mazzranache, then that pet will now pursue more quickly than it did before. Most pets, which were already at 115% pursuit speed, were not affected at all."

http://web.archive.org/web/20080407223509/http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/stats_pursuitspeed.php

 

Pets should not keep their inner resistances either :

(Patch 1.3) "Fixed a bug where creatures were keeping their innate resistances after being tamed. This was unintentional and the fix will affect all existing pets."

 

Lupos deals physical damage in 2 days (on Anathema) :

(Patch 1.0) "All hunter pets will now always deal Physical damage for their base attack."

Edited March 3, 2017 by Slicy

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

Hope you hunters get banned then.

 

I won't. Happy with BT + LuposTruck.

[keck82 1]

this isnt even a ban reason -.-

lets say next patch the orc mount is broken and gives 150% speed do you expect every orc to use a different mount and threaten them with ban even if most people dont read the forums every day? ofcourse not you just fix the freaking problem

banning these people would be totaly unprofessional afterall they are just using a pet and the problem is not on they'r side but on the server side so they would ban people becouse of something they caused...

do you want to play on a server where you have to check every item every pet every npc for ban reasons?

if you notice that some attack makes 20% more dmg and isnt working as intended would you threaten people with ban for using it or would you fix the damn problem?

Edited March 5, 2017 by keck82

[keck82 1]

i am just saying it would not be a ban reason no matther if the hunter noticed it or not you cant just ban for broken game mechanics

[TheDruidCode 28]

12 minutes ago, keck82 said:

i am just saying it would not be a ban reason no matther if the hunter noticed it or not you cant just ban for broken game mechanics

Ofc they can. It's right there in the tou.

[keck82 1]

common sense tells us that a server admin can not do whatever he wants if he does that he will eventually piss the community off and lose trust

and i dont think i have to point out how important trust is for a crowdfoundet project

Edited March 5, 2017 by keck82

[Shiamorah 20]

3 minutes ago, keck82 said:

common sense tells us that a server admin can not do whatever he wants if he does that he will eventually piss the community off and lose trust

and i dont think i have to point out how important trust is for a crowdfoundet project

Sincerely,

A player that exploited a bug for 21k HK and thought he'd get away with it

[TheDruidCode 28]

2 minutes ago, keck82 said:

common sense tells us that a server admin can not do whatever he wants if he does that he will eventually piss the community off and lose trust

We have agreed to the terms of use where it's stated that ingame bug abuse will result in a ban. I'm pretty sure that 99% of the hunters running around with blind hunter is aware of the bug.

[keck82 1]

bug=/=bug

there are vanilla bugs that are part of the experience and most players cant possibly know which one of these bugs is ok to use and which not a warning instead of an instant ban is the way to go

[TheDruidCode 28]

There's a difference between to come across a bug and to abuse it. 

[keck82 1]

i agree on that but still it could be part of the vanilla game like lupos is and the hunter could just think he found himself a nice cc immune pet without ever breaking the rules intentionally

much like a warrior that notices his mortal strike does to much dmg but ofcourse he would still use it and never expect to get banned for that

Edited March 5, 2017 by keck82

[TheDruidCode 28]

I still think the keyword here is abuse. As in intentionally using a bug. A hunter that happens to tame a bugged pet is not abusing even though he's using it. He could perhaps be banned for this ofc. And that wouldn't be very good, I agree. But the pet involved, blind hunter, is not a pet you just run across and tame when passing by. If a lot of hunters suddenly are using this very pet, mainly in pvp, it looks a bit suspicious. If it was every wolf or cat or even a just broken tooth that was bugged I don't think they would ban every hunter using those as it wouldn't be as obvious intentional use of a bug.

[smokeit 26]

19 hours ago, keck82 said:

and the hunter could just think he found himself a nice cc immune pet without ever breaking the rules intentionally

I could be that guy.