I assume that you will disable the human racial for Brood of Nozdormu during the mount/title race.

[Muhsogyny 2]

I'm not going to attempt to get the mount, so this isn't personal. It would be incredible for you to not disable it based on how you designed the event. You know how autists utilize every possible advantage in this game, and a 10% advantage on reputation is HUGE when only the FIRST 6 people can claim the mount and title. Racials exist for a reason, and provide advantages in different aspects of the game, but this kind of CUSTOM, NON-BLIZZLIKE EVENT is obviously not what the racial was intended for. Disable it or you will see 6 humans with the title and mount and everyone on the server will think you make terrible design decisions.

[Jeddite 9]

Were this thread true (it is not), then this would have been an issue during the AQ War Effort in 2005 (and it wasn't).

[Jeddite 9]

You're not going to be <SCARAB LORD>, bro -- Diplomacy or not.

 

TRU-FAX:  The two <SCARAB LORD> players on Deathwing-US were an Undead Warlock and a Night Elf Priest.

The Undead Warlock was my guild leader (<DEPRAVED>)

Edited March 6, 2017 by Jeddite

[bigdig 0]

the whole point is that they've made the event different from retail, in such a way that the human racial bonus will be a huge factor whereas in retail it wasn't

[Muhsogyny 2]

56 minutes ago, Wid Mnd said:

There's no title in vanilla.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:Bang_a_Gong!

Can you people that have absolutely no idea what you are talking about stay off this thread?

[Horten 9]

Scroll down and read the part where it says the title was added in TBC. There's no title outside of your PvP rank in Vanilla.

[Drain 19]

A racial is not disabled just because you don't like it. If you cared about this bonus, you should have rolled Human to begin with. If you didn't, then obviously you did not care about it. You can't backtrack it now by asking them to pointlessly disable it. If you want to do crap like this, then you may as well delete racials entirely. I mean, why should they even exist if they're going to be disabled whenever they offer an advantage over other races? That is their entire purpose, which I guess you missed.

[Muhsogyny 2]

6 minutes ago, Drain said:

If you cared about this bonus, you should have rolled Human to begin with.

You keep pretending that this is something personal when I've already stated that I'm not doing the quest chain. I don't give any shits about this racial, except now that when it is being applied to a CUSTOM ONCE IN A LIFE TIME EVENT THAT NO ONE SAW COMING IT IS COMPLETELY BROKEN. As if you or anyone else could have predicted that a single racial would have determined whether or not they even have a chance at obtaining that mount. 

[kastle 4]

then why make this thread if you don't care?

[Kazuma 11]

I heard will of the forsaken is huge in pvp aswell pls disable.

Aint happening buddy enjoy losing Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal to the alliance ;-)

Edited March 6, 2017 by Kazuma

[Muhsogyny 2]

13 minutes ago, kastle said:

then why make this thread if you don't care?

I didn't say that I don't care. I said that this isn't going to affect me personally. I still care that it is going to completely fuck over everyone that wants to participate in the race but didn't happen to roll a human. 

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

2 hours ago, Muhsogyny said:

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:Bang_a_Gong!

Can you people that have absolutely no idea what you are talking about stay off this thread?

ROFL HOLY SHIT READ.

So much autism in this thread. Who the fuck CARES. If you want it bad enough regardless, you'll do that 10% extra.

Leave the server already if you hate it.

[Docholy 4]

What a laughable plea from a horde toon.  So you want the clear advantage that is the human racial to be suppressed for the AQ gate quest.  The impact of this quest is nothing compared to the total IMBA racials horde have on a daily bases. This is funny indeed, well done. Excellent trolling, TOP MEME!

[Lifealert 19]

Chinese are going to get it first regardless of race. 

[Oakenlix 79]

1 minute ago, Lifealert said:

Chinese are going to get it first regardless of race. 

Yes, because Chinese isn't a race, it's a mindset!

[smokeit 26]

I kind of always wanted to play human because reputation gain is a pretty big part of vanilla wow,

but hey, I love gnomes, and will always play gnomes.only.

[(TheReal) Krom 7]

Why play a magic fantasy game and still be a boring a s s ugly human, doe.

On topic, racials are meant to give specific advantages. So to nullify such advantages, may as well delete racials.

Nut gonna happen.

[Muhsogyny 2]

2 hours ago, Docholy said:

What a laughable plea from a horde toon.  So you want the clear advantage that is the human racial to be suppressed for the AQ gate quest.  The impact of this quest is nothing compared to the total IMBA racials horde have on a daily bases. This is funny indeed, well done. Excellent trolling, TOP MEME!

It's no one's fault but your own that you are incapable of using Stoneform, Escape Artist, Shadow Meld, and Perception to their full potential. It's also no one's fault but your own that you rolled a shit race for a priest. So of course you think WotF is god tier without seeing the big picture, even though human and dwarf priests have a mana free instant cast that heals 50-75% of your health on a 10 minute timer.

[Geston 15]

7 hours ago, Muhsogyny said:

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:Bang_a_Gong!

Can you people that have absolutely no idea what you are talking about stay off this thread?

Can you people that have absolutely no idea what you are talking about stay off this board?

[flowqz 34]

13 hours ago, Muhsogyny said:

Racials exist for a reason, and provide advantages in different aspects of the game, but this kind of CUSTOM, NON-BLIZZLIKE EVENT is obviously not what the racial was intended for.

the racial was intended for increased reputationgain.

this event is about reputationgain. 

=

dunno wtf you are demanding. 

[Haestingas 30]

The fact is that Anathema is doing this non blizzlike change to make this a sprint race to the finish instead of a marathon. The fact is that before this NON BLIZZLIKE CHANGE this was a race against yourself and your sanity ergo are you willing to farm these bugs for 72h+ while begging/bribing friends to help you. This was still a hard feat to accomplish because it was such a time sink and you are vulnerable to pvp. Now you are racing against the entire server, and it just so happens that one race has a 10% advantage over everyone else. When you factor in the sheer amount of time this saves (~7h) it comes out to an unfair advantage that wasn't intended. Every single other reputation grind in vanilla wow is a race against yourself, with the sole exception of this non blizzlike change to the bug mount.

 

Another thing about this NON BLIZZLIKE CHANGE that I find great issue with is making the Fragments BoP. Before if it looked like you wouldn't get the mount in time you could at least recoup some of your time spent by selling your fragments for a fairly hefty amount of gold. Now if you aren't in the top 6 all your time is straight up wasted.

 

[Patchi 4]

I can only imagine that they knew a lot of guilds were working together to have equal shots at the Scarab Lord. And they didn't want 30 people running around with the mount (at least). The time restraint factor they are concerned with they did to themselves. If they would have increased the war effort turn ins properly, then people would have been racing against lockouts to get the quest done, as it takes at LEAST 2 raid lockouts per person to complete the scepter shard questline. Now it's going to be "whoever is able to get the broodlord head the fastest after war effort is done" will have the clear advantage.

 

Human racial will be significantly more valuable now than it would have been had the scarab lord quest line been implemented as blizzard did it. I see the good, and the bad with the custom changes they have done, but I agree with Haestingas, changing the fragments to BoP is an extremely awful change. I sincerely hope they have GM's planted in Silithus day and night because I promise you there will be people account sharing now. Also makes deputizing people worthless, so you can throw that cool aspect of the questline out of the window.

 

Wish this would have been discussed with the server before just "announcing it" on the day you release the war effort. A lot of things would have changed for a lot of guilds. Elysium has been doing significantly better with their transparency and goings on, but this one they dropped the ball.

[taladril 43]

The affect of the human racial is going to depend wildly on when the war effort ends and how it corresponds to raid timer lockouts. If the effort ends on a Tuesday, giving pretty much everybody a clean lockout then human racial isn't going to matter. Same case as if it ended on a mon or sun or sat probably. If it is on a weds, thurs, or fri and you can get broodlord head fast and go full tilt then human may win. It'd be the issue of if you can start the next segment of the quest before the next possible lockout before a large majority of players. I'm not exactly sure how fast the rep grind could be but there's multiple times where I guarantee that just because of lockout roll around the racial will not be a deciding factor. Will it help? Heck yeah it will. But so will being able to be there for 19 hours a day. Any takers?

[Haestingas 30]

Taladril you are insane if you dont think 10% will effect the mount race. The fact is the humans will go "full tilt" regardless of what day it starts.

[taladril 43]

It will affect some people's health if they aren't human having to do it 10% more. The point I tried to make so I'll make it again is that the questline is bound by raid lockout. Certain days will be more or less advantageous to humans with their 10% buff because it will either allow them to squeak by the lockout before everyone else or get stuck by the lockout along with everyone else. I don't think you understand the prerequisite requirements for successfully completing this quest if you think this is purely a grind. It's not and it has similar planning and strategizing requirements that R14 does, except it's over the course of 2-3 weeks rather than months.