2Handed warrior specc?

[zavaz 0]

So.  if i wanna play warrior as a 2handed type (as i think warrior "should" be) 

what specc should i use as a fresh lvl 60. (not level 60 yet)   i wanna be able to grind/run dungeons and mabye do sone pvp. just casual playing really.  

is there a specc out there that could be decent at this ?  i dont mind tanking the dungeon just to be clear :)

[Pwnana 1]

In the stickie thread right at the beginning there is a good 2h fury spec which I would recommend (20/31). For a more PvP oriented 2h spec there is the full Arms spec 31/20/0

[cargalia 2]

I I have like 3 to 4 builds depending on what you really want. 

You said you want to grind and run instances but you want to PvP. If You want to PvP effectively it has to be an arms build. Otherwise you'll die to a holy priest that knows what hes doing, because you cant reduce his healing percentage without mortal strike.

 

But if you're an arms build you cant grind mobs effectively. But to be fair you can probably get into any 60 dungeon as arms dps, because none will notice or wont care. BUT that's not factoring in the fact at 60 every tank is really a fury warrior trying to get his pre raid armor by cucking other dps wars.

 

Going from fury to arms with my shit max stat  green items,  I went from being able to potentially kill (by rng) 3 like level mobs. As arms it's not nearly as slow as prot, but it's definitely not shining for me at all in PvE atm. 

[Leakz 0]

I respeced to arms almost immediately after I dinged 60 and I haven't regretted it. When you do PvP without insane gear you really dont have the chance to 'stick around' your enemies so you are relying on charging in and delivering a nice 2h MS crit. Dual wielding just doesn't do the job.. (I suspect 2h fury could be decent as well).

For dungeons I can really recommend just getting used to tanking. You will find groups and get the gear you need so much faster. It might be harder as arms, but still easily doable. Just make sure to get a good group composition so you have enough cc.

So I would say totally go for it! Get into BRD and get that Dreadforge Retaliator! Then respec arms with axe specialization :)

Edit: You can also get good 2h swords from Dire Maul North or the questline in Scholo (Warblade of Caer Darrow).

[Adeline 2]

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LMhxbAboxdE0zu0x

This is the standard arms PvP spec. It also works great for 5-mans since you have amazing cleave damage with SS and whirlwind.

And you can tank 5-mans in any sort of spec so it's fine for that too.

[zavaz 0]

Thanks for great feedback!  I try the arms spec at first. Fury seems cool and all. But there is something about Ms :)

[Storfan 24]

47 minutes ago, zavaz said:

Thanks for great feedback!  I try the arms spec at first. Fury seems cool and all. But there is something about Ms :)

You wont be able to raid as Arms though since MS debuff takes up a debuff slot on bosses.

[zavaz 0]

1 hour ago, Storfan said:

You wont be able to raid as Arms though since MS debuff takes up a debuff slot on bosses.

A great point.  I did not knew that!  

[Undertanker 88]

You should be able to join some pug ZGs (if on Anathema) as Arms DPS since you'll hold your own on the trash and a lot of bosses have some things to cleave down.   Debuff slots are usually not reached as easilly in a 20 man.  This allows you to quickly pick up a Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds which literally gets thrown at whoever the hell says they want it to avoid a shard or vendor.  

Also you can go to some MC groups that have it on farm but may be short handed.  Warm-Body > Nobody.

[Jeetee 2]

Debuff slots don't matter on farm content, arms is fine especially horde.

[Storfan 24]

2 hours ago, Jeetee said:

Debuff slots don't matter on farm content, arms is fine especially horde.

I guess that depends on how much of a nazi-guild you're in and how open they are towards heresy:D

[zavaz 0]

Finaly level 60:)  ive heard about a 2h fury/slam spec. Any thoughts on that spec? Looking at some youtube vids and it looks pretty cool! 

[Storfan 24]

1 minute ago, zavaz said:

Finaly level 60:)  ive heard about a 2h fury/slam spec. Any thoughts on that spec? Looking at some youtube vids and it looks pretty cool! 

2h-slam spec is technically superior to cookie cutter 20/31 2h-fury but at the cost of general mobility and focus. The problem is that most fights are mobile and demands focus even in MC/BWL.

TLDR: You'll compete for top DPS even without slam provided you have the weapons for it.

[Banezilla 2]

I rarely hear people talking about the old school 31/5/15 spec, is that still viable? It seems fairly well rounded

[Storfan 24]

1 hour ago, Banezilla said:

I rarely hear people talking about the old school 31/5/15 spec, is that still viable? It seems fairly well rounded

Nope because raiding guilds today are more aware of not wasting debuff slots of junk like MS.

[vido 1]

 keep in mind also that 31/5/15 made more sense before 1.10, when shield slam sucked. 2h fury with 4/5 imp slam is cool, but it's hardly a dps increase since you don't have many windows of opportunity to use slam effectively in conjunction with flurry. Now arms spec is super fun to raid with and using slam becomes mandatory for good dps, you'll even use it during execute phase between swings. Come up with an excuse for you raid leader like you're ranking, and then enjoy yourself. Topping meters in MC is easy with all the cleave fights, and it's amazing in BWL for p1 Nef.

[zavaz 0]

Rly great suggestions here. now i just need to make up my mind :D  Just got the Dreadforge axe from emp in brd also :D so a new wep is check ! :D

[zavaz 0]

How Good is the Epic 2h scen from DM-north.(cant remember the name). Running as 2h fury atm. Is it to fast  (2.70 aspd) ? Or mabye sep speed dossent måttet that much as fury? 

[Storfan 24]

22 minutes ago, zavaz said:

How Good is the Epic 2h scen from DM-north.(cant remember the name). Running as 2h fury atm. Is it to fast  (2.70 aspd) ? Or mabye sep speed dossent måttet that much as fury? 

Technically correct. Fury isnt as weapon-speed dependant. However, 2h-fury isnt viable in pre-raid and early raid content.

[Justme 9]

26 minutes ago, Storfan said:

Technically correct. Fury isnt as weapon-speed dependant. However, 2h-fury isnt viable in pre-raid and early raid content.

2h fury is viable in early raid. The only classes that will outdamage you are rogues and DW warriors. 

[Storfan 24]

58 minutes ago, Justme said:

2h fury is viable in early raid. The only classes that will outdamage you are rogues and DW warriors. 

I guess it depends on your definition of "viable", and if you're Horde or alliance.

[Justme 9]

49 minutes ago, Storfan said:

I guess it depends on your definition of "viable", and if you're Horde or alliance.

I doubt the raid will notice the difference in speedkilling if all the dps warriors in the raid switched from DW to Fury in early raids
 

[Jeetee 2]

Used arcanite reaper as horde two handed fury in the early molten cores on nost.  As orc it was good enough to top meters regularly.

[Masteridley 3]

Question for you guys, I am currently using Thrash Blade + Mirah's Song, and with the release of AV coming up soon I am wondering if it would be beneficial to use The Unstoppable Force with a 2h spec over my current setup. Also I am not human

[ismeckye 7]

11 hours ago, Storfan said:

Technically correct. Fury isnt as weapon-speed dependant. However, 2h-fury isnt viable in pre-raid and early raid content.

May I ask why? From my understanding DW lacks because of missing +% hit gear but why 2h-fury?