Legacy Crusade: The Journey doesn't end here!

[Ickus 40]

15 minutes ago, Ironfoot said:

Edit: /laugh

Useless as usual

[Ickus 40]

I just can't wait until we have details. This thread is getting useless.

[Dralek 5]

24 minutes ago, Ironfoot said:

Edit: /laugh

Edit2: @Dralek @Keala

Could you please don't react for somebody's comment who is not on the same opinion like you, just for a day, please? I'd be really happy for some talk without your interruption, explonation and teas.

Cheers.

I'm going to react if I'm being heavily miss-quoted on what I have written, which is what you and others have been doing for 2 pages. Half of what many have posted was based on things we didn't actually wrote (such as Anathema players having "demands").

Your lack of reading comprehension isn't my fault, but it becomes my problem if you begin quoting me.

[Keala 28]

34 minutes ago, Ironfoot said:

Edit: /laugh

Edit2: @Dralek @Keala

Could you please don't react for somebody's comment who is not on the same opinion like you, just for a day, please? I'd be really happy for some talk without your interruption, explonation and teas.

Cheers.

That's weird though, I don't share the same opinion with Ickus and Forest_ regarding making Anathema wait for Elysium, and yet we can easily discuss with each other like normal persons, sharing our thoughts and comparing them. How is it possible, since I react to everyone who don't share my opinion?

[Silverlan 0]

What is the problem with copying characters from Elysium to Anathema when Naxx has been cleared (on Anethema). This means they havea short amount of time to farm Naxx for gear but Anethema people still have an advantage - which is important imo, they have played longest out of all servers and deserve that reward.

 

By copying characters you can still progress on Elysium while also joining TBC.

 

This seems fair to me, what issue would there be with this? Is it not a solution?

[sumeht 9]

1 hour ago, Silverlan said:

What is the problem with copying characters from Elysium to Anathema when Naxx has been cleared (on Anethema). This means they havea short amount of time to farm Naxx for gear but Anethema people still have an advantage - which is important imo, they have played longest out of all servers and deserve that reward.

 

By copying characters you can still progress on Elysium while also joining TBC.

 

This seems fair to me, what issue would there be with this? Is it not a solution?

That could hurt the population of the Elysium server.

[Ickus 40]

2 hours ago, Silverlan said:

What is the problem with copying characters from Elysium to Anathema when Naxx has been cleared (on Anethema). This means they havea short amount of time to farm Naxx for gear but Anethema people still have an advantage - which is important imo, they have played longest out of all servers and deserve that reward.

 

By copying characters you can still progress on Elysium while also joining TBC.

 

This seems fair to me, what issue would there be with this? Is it not a solution?

Not everything is fair and point out T3 as a major advantage isn't correct. Anathema will have more gear for leveling and pre raid but that's it. Life isn't fair... who cares if one server has more gear from a previous expansion than another. This "totally fair" stuff needs to stop. Just who cares cause by the end of Kara T3 won't matter whatsoever.

 

just let them go at the same time and give Elysium proper time to do naxx. Merge the vanilla servers a few months prior to tbc this gives Anathema people an exciting new population to interact with as well as allowing Elysium to continue farming naxx and catch up on gear. 

[ProAntagonist 0]

Elyisium player here, I would very much like to play TBC and would support a single TBC realm. The sooner I can have a level 60 toon to play there the better. If its going to take several months before Elysium characters merge I would probably just start a new character. Regardless, I intend to completely shift to TBC when it is released one way or another. But i would prefer to have a level 60 character to start!

Edited September 15, 2017 by ProAntagonist

[Nyemu 1]

I am wondering what "Characters will be copied like the PTR realm" means. Does it means characters only get copied, or does it mean we get to keep all items, gold and stored items in bank?

Also I see a lot of arguing how Anathema must wait to play TBC until Elysium is caught up with the timeline to merge the two servers onto one TBC realm. While that sound nice, we don't live in a perfect world. Anathema players would leave long before Elysium is done with Naxx. And the argument that T3 geared players will get an unfair advantage is pretty weak. They won't level up that much faster, and leats be real with ourselves, the gear you get while questing is more than good enough. If I had the choice to level up a green geared character vs a few T3 geared players and get the server 6 months earlier, then ofcourse I would say yes.

I believe some compromise must be made, where for a limited time, players can create a new lvl 58 or 60 on the TBC realm. This way Elysium players get to make a character when they didn't get to transfer from Anathema. Also Horde players get their Paladins going faster to level with friends, and Alliance get to do the same with Shamans. While not completely "Blizzlike" I wouldn't mid this if it means we get a TBC servers sooner.

[Keala 28]

16 minutes ago, Nyemu said:

I am wondering what "Characters will be copied like the PTR realm" means. Does it means characters only get copied, or does it mean we get to keep all items, gold and stored items in bank?

Also I see a lot of arguing how Anathema must wait to play TBC until Elysium is caught up with the timeline to merge the two servers onto one TBC realm. While that sound nice, we don't live in a perfect world. Anathema players would leave long before Elysium is done with Naxx. And the argument that T3 geared players will get an unfair advantage is pretty weak. They won't level up that much faster, and leats be real with ourselves, the gear you get while questing is more than good enough. If I had the choice to level up a green geared character vs a few T3 geared players and get the server 6 months earlier, then ofcourse I would say yes.

I believe some compromise must be made, where for a limited time, players can create a new lvl 58 or 60 on the TBC realm. This way Elysium players get to make a character when they didn't get to transfer from Anathema. Also Horde players get their Paladins going faster to level with friends, and Alliance get to do the same with Shamans. While not completely "Blizzlike" I wouldn't mid this if it means we get a TBC servers sooner.

It's nice to see comments like this one every now and then. No matter how right would be to make Anathema wait for Elysium to catch up in order to fix the mistakes of the past, it's simply way too much time to wait. I feel like most payers who think that way don't really realize what it means to wait for that long, they'll simply end up quitting cause waiting over 1 year while having no new content to play gets boring really fast, especially when the server is gonna be even more empty after seeing the first Kel'Thuzad kills.

Indeed, a compromise must be made in order to make things acceptable for everyone. You suggested letting players be already at level 58 when they create their characters, but why not simply offer them a transfer option at that point? It seems much easier to me, but it might just my opinion.

[Nyemu 1]

34 minutes ago, Keala said:

Indeed, a compromise must be made in order to make things acceptable for everyone. You suggested letting players be already at level 58 when they create their characters, but why not simply offer them a transfer option at that point? It seems much easier to me, but it might just my opinion.

If that can be done then I am all for it. I might be wrong here, but I think names would become an issue? or is names shared among all servers to not make duplicate names. If there are two of the same name across both servers, who decides who gets to keep their character name? Again I could be wrong, and if I am, then ofcourse just copying over Elysium accounts would be the best thing in my opinion.

 

One thing is for sure, Anathema can't wait until Elysium is done with Naxx. I fear we will lose a good protion of the community in that time, and it is a shame. While Anathema players are the minority of the overall community these days, they are a dedicated bunch of players. It would be a shame to lose them.

Edited September 15, 2017 by Nyemu

[itzpeyton 0]

So for one that enjoys TBC over Vanilla should i roll on Anathema or Elysium? Thoughts? (new to elysium btw so starting fresh)

[Kazgarul 1]

Just adding: The character copy system is the best system I've ever heard for this sort of thing: What's more, it can potentially keep the old content alive and potentially allow everybody to progress at their own pace. 

[Moiz 0]

Wouldn't merging all servers into 1 TBC realm be kinda brutal? 10k+ in something that's about 1/4 the size of Azeroth... sounds painful ha. What about opening up transfers from Elysium to Anathema now and allowing the populations to equalise, then closing the transfers and proceeding each realm to TBC on their own. 

[Keala 28]

@Josipbroz

29 days ago, you made a reddit post where we could have asked any question, and the most popular ones would have assembled together in a post with their respective answers from the staff.

Quote

It's Q&A time again! Just ask a question in the comment section and we'll answer the most popular questions in a post soon. Please avoid posting duplicates, thanks!

Best regards!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElysiumProject/comments/6vzz2l/questions_for_the_team/

 

Since I have never heard about it anymore, I assume the post you mentioned was never made in the end. Do you have any informations on this? I would love to see the replies to most of those questions.

 

[FEYAARES 3]

@Keala let's hope this post is coming soon.

Servers are now upgraded on new hardware (old one was efficient for Anathema) so sounds like something is coming.
They don't want to reproduce the error from the past so they take the decision to upgrade everything before any official announcement about carac transfer or anything else.
The way they are doing everything looks better than before (Nostalrius transfer/reopening was really chaotic).

Since this TBC announcement I really feel like they are listening the community now and taking in general the "best" solution. 

Now one point is Benediction PTE. I don't know if they want to make two big announcement at the same time to equalize properly the population between every realm. 

[Hughman 0]

My suggestion is to allow transfers around the same time.. That meaning: Take your time making TBC.

If it releases a year after Naxx is released for Elysium (for sake of example), you can merge them both onto a single TBC server.

Then merge Elysium & Anathema so to keep the population alive and not ruined by a good percentage of players going to the TBC. 

You will then have Darrow, Anathema/Elysium as Vanilla realms & 1 PvE & 1 PvP TBC server. (I'm not known on Darrow's progress so I am not sure when a TBC transfer would be desired).

Hopefully when TBC is finished, all realms are at the point which they can transfer to TBC. This I would make as the main goal.

[theodora 0]

I came to the forum after months just to ask if there will ever be a progress to TBC and this is the first thing I see. Amazing!

[Krushem 0]

I just started playing on Elysium - are there any Devs or GMs that can confirm how long it would be before Elysium would get access to the TBC server? I'm asking because unfortunately I do not have much play time having a family. That being said, if it's going to wait out the timeline of a year~ I would much rather roll on Anathema now before I get too high on Elysium as I would like access to TBC as soon as possible. I just don't want to waste my limited resources or time as my heart is with TBC.

[Keala 28]

22 minutes ago, Krushem said:

I just started playing on Elysium - are there any Devs or GMs that can confirm how long it would be before Elysium would get access to the TBC server? I'm asking because unfortunately I do not have much play time having a family. That being said, if it's going to wait out the timeline of a year~ I would much rather roll on Anathema now before I get too high on Elysium as I would like access to TBC as soon as possible. I just don't want to waste my limited resources or time as my heart is with TBC.

The chances of Elysium going into TBC before it finishes its course are very slim. According to the timeline, Elysium should have Naxxramas released around September 2018. If you take into account that they won't release TBC 1 month after Naxxramas, it's safe to assume that Elysium should have TBC at the start of 2019.

[redpanda 0]

On 9/3/2017 at 8:59 AM, Ash said:

Friendly reminder that things are not finalized! ;)

This. <3

[Keala 28]

And how should that prevent us from speculating?

[Ashteloren 2]

On 9/26/2017 at 10:06 PM, Keala said:

The chances of Elysium going into TBC before it finishes its course are very slim. According to the timeline, Elysium should have Naxxramas released around September 2018. If you take into account that they won't release TBC 1 month after Naxxramas, it's safe to assume that Elysium should have TBC at the start of 2019.

Yeah, something like that, or maybe near the end of 2018 (november-december...).

[Eldoon 0]

I don't see why they should stop people from transferring off of Elysium to a TBC server as soon as it's released. I'd much rather play TBC than Naxx, and I think it's strange to think that I'd have to re-roll again instead of being able to transfer. I wouldn't be behind in gear for long, a few levels at most, so it's not like it would cause issues.

[Hiukiji 0]

Will it add in the entirety of TBC, or will it retain some vanilla elements? Will the group finder be added with TBC?