POLL: Do you want a PvE TBC server?

[Jasrahni 0]

Voted PVE, would rather smear jam on my eyeballs and stick my head in a wasps nest than PVP. If the server does merge with the PVP one then I guess I'll either reroll on Crestfall PVE or go elsewhere  (whether that be a different server or game I dunno).

[Nelythia 44]

Who spread this dumb and false story that Vicarious is at fault for "scaring" horde players away, wtf?

They didn't. The majority of Sanctum / Deja Vu quit with the release of Elysium due to fresh server and thats when the serious faction imbalance started.
Vicarious didn't scare players away, we had 2 pretty big raid cores and the people started to quit the game when Vicarious EU couldn't clear BWL for months due to the bad leadership. One day Poplockndrop was tired of them and just rage kicked them all, which is toxic and all but isn't the reason players quit.

People keep rerolling on other servers everytime a hype is started again, especially WotLK meme servers like warmane or Northcraft.
And not because Darrowshire is decreasing in population, rather because vanilla in general doesn't have that much to do and you finish new content fairly quickly.

[Pieper 2]

Nelythia... is this the same player who purposefully didn't flag while killing Booty Bay for rep?  

[Oudeis 1]

17 hours ago, Nelythia said:

Waste of your time.

Coming from someone that only come to PVE because they wanted to escape the high pop of Nost and that was too stupid to reroll Elysium, can you just get out? We know you want to switch to a PVP server put your are just too lazy to reroll.

[Hurricane2 2]

Dilizium or whatever his name was trolled the forums for months scaring people away from darrowshire until he finally disappeared.

[Software 9]

17 hours ago, Nelythia said:

As said. Wasting your time.

If you would spend that time in actually reading the thread you would have seen that they will do a poll themself if they realize a "demand" for a PvE TBC server.
Which is not actually enough to give Darrowshire a PvE TBC server. It will split the community by half already due to players NOT wanting to play TBC, as well as wasting too much money that this project desperately needs.

I keep seeing the argument about splitting the community. Stop it. It's not valid. Many players like myself simply don't play if there's not a PvE server. The alternative isn't what I'm looking for. It doesn't matter how you attempt to rationalize it "Oh, well the ganking isn't that bad! There are flying mounts which kill world PvP!" Stop it. I don't care. I'm not interested in playing on a PvP realm at all. Not since retail.

[Nelythia 44]

1 hour ago, Oudeis said:

Coming from someone that only come to PVE because they wanted to escape the high pop of Nost and that was too stupid to reroll Elysium, can you just get out? We know you want to switch to a PVP server put your are just too lazy to reroll.

Too lazy?
Are you stupid?

So I can say you are lazy by not wanting to play on a PvP server or wanting to reroll on crestfall PvE?

I am attached to my main just as you are, and I don't like throwing away 200 days of /played time.

1 hour ago, Pieper said:

Nelythia... is this the same player who purposefully didn't flag while killing Booty Bay for rep?  

PvPing in Booty Bay is waste of reputation and just extends the quest NPC griefing. However there were a few alliance that tried to kill me by force flagging, but all it did was reuslting in them dying to guards and farming repair costs while I survived.

54 minutes ago, Software said:

I keep seeing the argument about splitting the community. Stop it. It's not valid. Many players like myself simply don't play if there's not a PvE server. The alternative isn't what I'm looking for. It doesn't matter how you attempt to rationalize it "Oh, well the ganking isn't that bad! There are flying mounts which kill world PvP!" Stop it. I don't care. I'm not interested in playing on a PvP realm at all. Not since retail.

Fair point that you don't want to play on a PvP server, however my argument with splitting the community is very well valid.
Crestfall has a PvE server coming, Darrowshire PvE for vanilla is struggling with a low population especially very low faction balance, TBC PvE for Darrowshire would be a third PvE server. So you split an already too low amount of PvE server demanding players into 3 servers, because not all of them want to play both or either of them.

This is a volunteer based project and not your local company hosting and maintaining it. It costs a lot of money to rent hardware, and renting 3 hardware servers for 3 different PvE servers is waste of money when the primary focus is on their PvP servers.

[Oudeis 1]

11 minutes ago, Nelythia said:

Too lazy?
Are you stupid?

So I can say you are lazy by not wanting to play on a PvP server or wanting to reroll on crestfall PvE?

Nope, I lack the sociopaths tedency to play on PVP and if crestfall have a PVE server and it's my only option for TBC, Crestfall 2021 here I go!

 

Oh and yes, I did level on Nost PVP because I really wanted too play Vanilla once more, but I was not happy there, guess what, I have reroll on PVE and I have never regreat that decision. If you stay on a server that make you unhappy then yes, you have an issue and you should put some effort on solving your issue yourself. It`s hard but you can do it.

[Pieper 2]

14 minutes ago, Nelythia said:

PvPing in Booty Bay is waste of reputation and just extends the quest NPC griefing.

So someone who claims that being flagged all the time is fine admits that being flagged all the time isn't so fine. In fact it would be a "waste" and "griefing." Pretty much the same reasons everyone has given for not wanting to be flagged all the time.

 

[Nelythia 44]

40 minutes ago, Pieper said:

So someone who claims that being flagged all the time is fine admits that being flagged all the time isn't so fine. In fact it would be a "waste" and "griefing." Pretty much the same reasons everyone has given for not wanting to be flagged all the time.

 

You are twisting my words.

I got contacted every day by Gamemasters for more than 4 times and had to explain them what I do, they told me to hurry the fuck up because they are annoyed by me and guildmates doing the reputation grind. So of course, PvP in this situation is waste of my time, lose of reputation, extending disabling quest NPC's. In addition to that, the goblin towns aren't supposed to allow PvP, as you see the guards killing you immediately as soon as you attack someone and safespotting in goblin towns is heavily sanctioned.

[Pieper 2]

47 minutes ago, Nelythia said:

You are twisting my words.

I got contacted every day by Gamemasters for more than 4 times and had to explain them what I do, they told me to hurry the fuck up because they are annoyed by me and guildmates doing the reputation grind. So of course, PvP in this situation is waste of my time, lose of reputation, extending disabling quest NPC's. In addition to that, the goblin towns aren't supposed to allow PvP, as you see the guards killing you immediately as soon as you attack someone and safespotting in goblin towns is heavily sanctioned.

Not twisting your words at all. You were pretty clear and it wasn't necessary for you to make your point again. 

Spending days trying to quest in Redridge because of constant ganks and dead NPC's isn't wasting time or griefing. But then that isn't about you.

[kcollins 2]

I will agree with Nelythia on the Booty Bay, if he had been flagged it would have just disabled the quest givers longer and in turn caused more griefing

[Hatsodoom 0]

Can someone get Nelythia out of here? Clearly they're the type of person to gank every low level they see. We don't like world PvP, some of us, like me, don't like PvP at all. End of story, get used to it.

[Mahtan 15]

Nelythia, just delete your character(s) on Darrowshire. Let it go. [insert Frozen song link]

 

[Guardian452 1]

Remember guys... this isn't for bashing or bringing up crap that happened in the past.

We're trying to have a reasonable discussion about whether or not the community wants a PvE TBC realm.

Let it go or start up a separate thread.

(oh, and thanks Mahtan... now I have that damn Frozen song stuck in my head. ha.)

[Hatsodoom 0]

42 minutes ago, Guardian452 said:

Remember guys... this isn't for bashing or bringing up crap that happened in the past.

We're trying to have a reasonable discussion about whether or not the community wants a PvE TBC realm.

Let it go or start up a separate thread.

(oh, and thanks Mahtan... now I have that damn Frozen song stuck in my head. ha.)

Glad I never saw that movie then. ATM I'm more worried about Darrowshire staying PvE.

[Guardian452 1]

3 hours ago, Hatsodoom said:

Glad I never saw that movie then. ATM I'm more worried about Darrowshire staying PvE.

That decision is still some time away from being made. Right now, the best thing to do is to show the powers-that-be that we, as a community, want it.

Send your guildmates and friends on Darrowshire here too. Have them read through this and the Q&A thread, vote, and leave comments on both.

[Guardian452 1]

17 hours ago, Guardian452 said:

Remember guys... this isn't for bashing or bringing up crap that happened in the past.

We're trying to have a reasonable discussion about whether or not the community wants a PvE TBC realm.

Let it go or start up a separate thread.

(oh, and thanks Mahtan... now I have that damn Frozen song stuck in my head. ha.)

As you probably noticed, the Q&A thread has been closed since it devolved into fighting about stupid stuff in the past that has no bearing on things going on now.

Let's continue the discussion here, but keep it civil.

[Mathys 0]

As a funding director of the FR community on Darrowshire (Templiers Legendaires) and more specifically on a PvE server, I vote FOR a BC PVE server because players playing on Pve servers have their own reasons, WoW is not only a pvp game and by the way they don't care about pvp all the time, the game is not only pvp, it's a part of the game !

Nowadays, there is many players waiting for a PVE BC server that are not playing on Elysium plateform thanks to the well-script reputation here, they still wait ... 

So if there will be only 2 BC pvp server, thousand of people will stop playing here, that's simple ! As I'm concerned too ... and I will be very very sad, 'cause BC is the most fabulous extension of the game !  And so sad due to the investment we all made in Vanilla hoping playing our avatars on BC !

We work hard to build a FR community here on a PvE server because it's our wish; and we're waiting for a BC PvE server to continue evolving, and recruting more FR players in order to keep the FR community active on that kind of game !

We create avatars on PvE server, that means : NOT on a pvp server .... and we don't want becoming "pvp players" !

Many others won't be attract to play TBC only on Pvp, if both exist, it's not only to be "lovely" ; the 2 server types exist to satisfy the whole community of WoW !!!

So, thanks for reading

and still hope ....

Mathys.

[Raz87 0]

3 hours ago, Mathys said:

WoW is not only a pvp game and by the way they don't care about pvp all the time, the game is not only pvp, it's a part of the game !

Not only that: World of WarCraft is actually a PvE-game, orginally (And still is, to this day (Retail)). The first BGs were added a little under 6 months after the release of the game, and AB came as late as patch 1.7 (ZG patch). The only form of PvP there was the 6 first months of the game, was World PvP (Southshore vs Tarren Mill anyone?). And let me remind you all that EPL and Silithus, didn't have the PvP-objectives until the very end of Vanilla (Patch 1.12).

PvP was a small and very unbalanced aspect of the game, but some people loved it and wanted more, so Blizzard decided to give them BGs, to rip each other apart in there.

Implying that PvP is some huge aspect of the game, is to think that the conflict between the Horde and Alliance was a major plotpoint in vanilla, lore-wise - It wasn't. It was in WC1 through 3, plus expansions. But with WoW? No, it was shoved to the side, to make room for PvE, like leveling, raiding etc.

WoW is a PvE-game, with some PvP.

[rianodd 0]

TY Raz87.....I have toons on Elysium and if I want pvp I will play there but for the most part I love the PVE of Darrowshire.  I have played on servers that are pay to win and all the crap and finally I found a pve server that I love, that I have fun on and I can do whatever I want when I want and not be one shotted by some asshole of the opposite faction that has a big ego at 60. The "just because I can " one shot you thing on Elysium gets old while trying to quest and level and work on professions ect., ect. I as a lover of WOW did NOT start playing until TBC....... so therefore I like the whole aspect of this experience NOT being like retail WOW. The whole easy button thing just irks me. That said, I love the Darrowshire community and being here and if it is merged I cannot see myself playing on it much less if it is TBC content.  This I thought was supposed to be Vanilla wow not xpac xpac xpac blah blah blah. Retail WOW changed so much that I play on Darrow and I find myself discovering all kinds of things that  I did not know existed. I may be just one voice but my opinion is if people want pvp play on Elysium , frankly its nice to have a choice, but for those of us who love the pve aspect I vote keep Darrow the way it is. I know I will be flamed by people who want the server to die citing financial woes and blah blah blah yadda yadda and all the drivel I have read on the forums about this issue.... if the devs want to merge it or shut it down tell us now so those of us that love the PVE realm can bow out or whatever we decide to do. I just have no desire to continue to play if my toons on Darrow will be forced down the path of pvp. I chose this server for the PVE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Software 9]

On 10/12/2017 at 9:19 AM, Nelythia said:

Fair point that you don't want to play on a PvP server, however my argument with splitting the community is very well valid.
Crestfall has a PvE server coming, Darrowshire PvE for vanilla is struggling with a low population especially very low faction balance, TBC PvE for Darrowshire would be a third PvE server. So you split an already too low amount of PvE server demanding players into 3 servers, because not all of them want to play both or either of them.

This is a volunteer based project and not your local company hosting and maintaining it. It costs a lot of money to rent hardware, and renting 3 hardware servers for 3 different PvE servers is waste of money when the primary focus is on their PvP servers.

A valid point, but only to a degree. It's not 100% true. It's only partly true. The point I'm making is that there are a lot of players who play on PvE realms, and simply won't play or donate anything at all without one, because I (get this) don't want to play with the majority of you.

[Raz87 0]

Saying Darrowshire has low pop is such nonsense: It has higher pop than Anathema. Even if it is true, it's only true for the Horde - We are thriving here on the Alliance side.

Also, you're completely ignoring the hundreds (If not thousands) of players, that are gonna start playing with the launch of TBC. Let's not forget: TBC was a bigger, and more populare "expansion", than Vanilla. Populations will increase, overall. Splitting the servers might actually be what is best, for both leveling, lag, and PvP.

[shakey 0]

you all scrubs, i remember when feenix warsong had 1.500 players and the server started lagging, and 2.000 was unplayable.. so enjoy the 1.500 and play the game!

[KiT2142 0]

Leveling on a PvP realm as an alliance is complete cancer. So the only way to play either vanilla or tbc for me is a PvE realm