I assume that you will disable the human racial for Brood of Nozdormu during the mount/title race.

[Patchi 4]

There is indeed a lot more to it than just a rep grind, but the rep grind is the "longest" part of it, and the most time consuming. However since they are saying they buffed the out of instance raid quest categories, it might be harder and take longer than we're thinking. If the guild alliance that was working together for multiple scarab lords scattered and every guild for themselves, if the buffed out of raid bosses are truly that hard that you need multiple guilds to complete it, it could be interesting to see what happens.

 

However the fact that guilds are legitimately changing who's going for it to humans over all, it will definitely play a factor in the grind. And depending on what day of the week war effort is completed, could make or break others going for it that are non human.

[birday 1]

The QQ. Go to retail pls. Human racial is part of the game, deal with it. 

[Nosleep 4]

scarab lord matters  in 2017 :D

 

You all sound like ppl in 2009 transfering to new realms to 'achieve' the scarab lord title roflmao

 

Whats next?  Oh we are as good as nilihium cos 10+ years later, with updated and well known strats.... dont need to learn my class the hard way.. ill just read 12 years of acquired info and be an insta master... then claim we killed nax.

 

I love pvt servers cos they let me play old wow again... but the knowledge base has developed soo much with step by step guides on every single boss... it can never be as hard as it was... the reason it was hard was cos we had to learn these things... not have the info spoon fed by the giants of the past, then to repeat it like tracing  a drawing then claiming youre an artist :D

 

go go scarab lord! :D

 

 

 

on a serious note:  gratz to any and all who do this grind, always loved the co-op part of this :)

Edited March 7, 2017 by Nosleep

[Drakbak 3]

I agree that the human racial gives a ridiculous advantage.  Since with the custom changes reputation cannot be earned during the supply effort, there is no longer that cushion for players without this particular racial.  The task is monumental in of itself, needing 16,800 bug parts in order to get the reputation to start the actual scepter quests. Humans only need 15,200 bug parts.  Assuming 100% drop rate that's 1,600 more kills required by non-humans.  That number increases significantly if the drop rate isn't 100%.

In the old blizzard setup, it was like a bike race but you could only cross the finish line (ring the gong) once the spectators all caught up (war effort).  In the Anathema setup, the spectators are already there and humans are allowed to use mopeds.

This doesn't mean it's appropriate to disable the human racial.  I DO believe it is poor planning from the dev team to enact changes in this manner, but it's already done so what do you do about it?  Horde guilds need to band together to disrupt Alliance guilds via world PvP.  Delay their grind! Delay their world encounters!  Only then will Horde characters be afforded a reasonable chance at the mount.

[Haestingas 30]

I helped 2 different people get their bug mounts on K1, I know what goes into this questline better than most. You are ignorant if you don't think the humans going for bug mount won't either change their own guilds raid schedule for that one week, or just get deputized by someone doing the broodlord head the 1st day. All it takes is ONE alliance guild clearing BWL the 1st day and they can deputize the other 5 humans going for the mount.

As for the world bosses, the top guilds are already in alliances for the Green Dragons and Azuregos. They will just cut a deal where each guild gets at least 1 scarab lord, and in return they work together to kill the world bosses such as the Satyr and Eranikus.

We will be lucky if there's even 1 non human on the Scarab mount.

 

 

[Zak Preston 5]

Disable WotF in BGs then.

[Haestingas 30]

Disable your brain, oh wait you did that for me.

 

 

[judgejewdy 0]

disable orc 25% i mean 90% resist stun racial too 

[Robroy 2]

It wouldn't matter how Elysium set up the thing, there would be a thread or more complaining about it.

[Slicy 11]

6 hours ago, Drakbak said:

The task is monumental in of itself, needing 16,800 bug parts in order to get the reputation to start the actual scepter quests. Humans only need 15,200 bug parts.  Assuming 100% drop rate that's 1,600 more kills required by non-humans. 

Wrong numbers. It should be 42k.

Quality thread anyways.

[Muhsogyny 2]

3 hours ago, Zak Preston said:

Disable WotF in BGs then.

The only people I ever see bitch about WotF are shit tier plebs

1 hour ago, Robroy said:

It wouldn't matter how Elysium set up the thing, there would be a thread or more complaining about it.

not an argument

[smokeit 26]

On 7-3-2017 at 0:12 AM, ygvtfc said:

What alliance guild will possibly let a non-human attempt it now? You could risk everything and have some random human shitter turn it in before you and completely make it a waste.

MY GUILD BECAUSE GNOMES LOOK THE BEST ON THE MOUNT

[Mahtan 15]

@OP: Thanks for bringing attention to the issue. I am sorry that the toxic Elysium community attacks you personally.

I think the issue with human racial and a limited amount of scarab lords is a dilemma without real solution. It is still a private server style event - with or without human racial. It would be laughable to see dozens of Scarab Lords, so I am happy that they limited it. But the limit is laughable due to the racial. Maybe allow 8 scarab lords instead? One of each race. Still laughable, but a little bit more fair.

Edited March 8, 2017 by Mahtan

[Firebrand 3]

I think they should disable orc and undead racials on bgs then.

[birday 1]

Or maybe remove all useful racials like on retail!

[Milarepa 1]

The toxicity of this community is not normal.  Taking a break to play Civ VI for a while.

[flowqz 34]

15 hours ago, Muhsogyny said:

The only people I ever see bitch about WotF are shit tier plebs

not an argument

strange. the only people i ever see bitch about the human reputation racial are shit tier plebs aswell.

[Wazte 2]

On 06/03/2017 at 11:03 AM, smokeit said:

I kind of always wanted to play human because reputation gain is a pretty big part of vanilla wow,

but hey, I love gnomes, and will always play gnomes.only.

I feel you man! :)

[Drakbak 3]

18 hours ago, Slicy said:

Wrong numbers. It should be 42k.

Quality thread anyways.

How so?  The only resources I can find is that each turn in rewards 500 rep.  16,800 parts / 200 parts per turn in = 84 turn ins * 500 rep per turn in = 42,000 rep.  

[Slicy 11]

Thottbot page of the item on 20 Oct. 2006 (2 months after patch 1.12 release) :

•  "by BlahBlahBla, 9.6 months ago*

Post-Broodlord repeatable quest item.  42000 or so are needed to get a player from hated to neutral. "

• "by WDBNet, 9.1 months ago*

Once they're open, I doubt many people will volunteer to help you collect 42000 items"

• "by Atolmazel, 7.7 months ago

You'll find 'supreme' level bugs, 2mannable but you'll probably be zerging them, and they drop 150-200 carapaces PER KILL**. They also give 50 rep each. So if you're able to hand these in, you'll be able to get just under 250 rep** for every bug you kill."

-> * 20 Oct 2006 minus 9 months = 20 Jan 2006. Patch 1.9 The Gates of Anh' Qiraj was released 3 Jan 2006.

-> ** 250 rep minus 50 from supreme bug kill = 200 rep for the 200 carapaces dropped.

• "by wertsdfgxcvbqaz, 2.7 months ago

  From official website
  
  The Hand of the Righteous
  After the player has completed the quest "Only One May Rise", they may undergo the quest, "The Hand of the Righteous." After turning in 200 Silithid Carapace Fragments, they may deputize another player to gather these fragments. Every time the player turns in 200 Fragments they receive 200 reputation, and is allowed to deputize another player. This quest can be completed repeatedly until the player is Neutral with the Brood of Nozdormu."

• "by Drowhunter, 15.9 days ago 42000 sounds crazy !"

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20061020061605/http://www.thottbot.com/?i=52450

 

Edited March 8, 2017 by Slicy

[Haestingas 30]

To combat the sheer idiocy of all the pleb idiots trying to compare pvp racials to this scenario I'll help you idiots out. Imagine Anathema came out with some custom pvp event with the top 6 people receiving a mount. The catch to this custom event is that all CC has been replaced with fears. THEN we could compare WotF to the human 10% rep bonus between the two scenarios.

P.S. Drakbak your math is correct

[Muhsogyny 2]

2 minutes ago, Haestingas said:

To combat the sheer idiocy of all the pleb idiots trying to compare pvp racials to this scenario I'll help you idiots out. Imagine Anathema came out with some custom pvp event with the top 6 people receiving a mount. The catch to this custom event is that all CC has been replaced with fears. THEN we could compare WotF to the human 10% rep bonus between the two scenarios.

P.S. Drakbak your math is correct

People just want to bitch about anything, regardless of merit.

[Haestingas 30]

Fairly certain Kronos had the rep at 500 per, and so does aowow. Wouldn't surprise me if the rep was later increased in later patches or something though, with 200 being the correct value for 1.9.

[Gunari 3]

wha?

Edited March 8, 2017 by Gunari

[Mahtan 15]

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20061020061605/http://www.thottbot.com:80/?i=52450

"From official website

The Hand of the Righteous
After the player has completed the quest "Only One May Rise", they may undergo the quest, "The Hand of the Righteous." After turning in 200 Silithid Carapace Fragments, they may deputize another player to gather these fragments. Every time the player turns in 200 Fragments they receive 200 reputation, and is allowed to deputize another player. This quest can be completed repeatedly until the player is Neutral with the Brood of Nozdormu."

 

Not a proof, but I would try to find an image of that statement if I cared more.

Edited March 9, 2017 by Mahtan