War Effort Conerns

[painmachine696 0]

As some of you may know a few of the larger raiding guilds have thrown in the towel this week, that being said the war effort numbers seem to not be increasing and the webstie that tracks it says its predicted time of it finishing is in 2018... basically I'm just posting this thread because of im curious how long the war effort will last if it keeps up at this pace and how long other people might think itll last

Edited March 10, 2017 by painmachine696

[nolamik 0]

Start getting supplies not stupid topics

[Morathe 5]

Thrown in the towel? Have you seen how much is already contributed? Just check numbers and let that sink.

[flowqz 34]

37 minutes ago, Morathe said:

Thrown in the towel? Have you seen how much is already contributed? Just check numbers and let that sink.

watch how many expensive mats like fireblooms get handed in and let those numbers sink.

 

[Slicy 11]

1 hour ago, painmachine696 said:

As some of you may know a few of the larger raiding guilds have thrown in the towel this week, that being said the war effort numbers seem to not be increasing and the webstie that tracks it says its predicted time of it finishing is in 2018... basically I'm just posting this thread because of im curious how long the war effort will last if it keeps up at this pace and how long other people might think itll last

The answer is already in your question.

[Nelythia 44]

All this crying because of fireblooms.

 

Just farm them.

And let the staff remove the recipe since its not supposed to come with AQ anyways.

[mytchi3 1]

34 minutes ago, Nelythia said:

All this crying because of fireblooms.

 

Just farm them.

And let the staff remove the recipe since its not supposed to come with AQ anyways.

Instead of stupid posting go farm them yourseft. Its not only fireblooms that have unfarmable in any reasonable time numbers. 

Those numbers were set high to postpone release by several months it seems. Population will decrease and atm nobody who can add 1+1 will turn them in or farm them until @Shenna openly adresses this issue.

We expected mata to be at 200 to 500% of blizz values. But nobody expected this 30x 40x the ammount.

Its demoralizing 

Edited March 10, 2017 by mytchi3

[Morathe 5]

4 hours ago, flowqz said:

watch how many expensive mats like fireblooms get handed in and let those numbers sink.

 

Mongoloid

 

[flowqz 34]

i prefer beeing a downie, rather than thinking im a smart, while my observations are on preschoollevel.

[qbradq 0]

After looking into the total materials required and the reasoning for it, I do not think I agree with the reasoning. Requiring 70% of the active player base's resource holdings to be handed over for raid content that most of the server's active population is not going to be involved with does not seem to make a lot of sense. Especially when there is no incentive for the average player to hand in most of these goods.

[Hughman 0]

1 hour ago, qbradq said:

After looking into the total materials required and the reasoning for it, I do not think I agree with the reasoning. Requiring 70% of the active player base's resource holdings to be handed over for raid content that most of the server's active population is not going to be involved with does not seem to make a lot of sense. Especially when there is no incentive for the average player to hand in most of these goods.

I haven't played Anathema since Elysium dropped, but pretty sure you're suppose to get a lot of reputation to turn ins.. as incentives for the average player. Requiring higher turn in likely will lead to more people capping out reputation though, whether that be a good or bad thing.

[Pest 3]

4 hours ago, Nelythia said:

All this crying because of fireblooms.

 

Just farm them.

And let the staff remove the recipe since its not supposed to come with AQ anyways.

Lol, every thread. Someone has questions, and is wondering why the War effort numbers are so over numbered, and you just defend the shit out of them.  Are you a staff member, or what? Anything negative, and you come in here waving that flag.  Jesus christ it's embarrassing.  You want us to farm a material that is used for pots/oils, which are already farmed 24/7. Let's just say we even get 1/4 of the nodes(lmao) The war effort will come to an end in 2019. So, please, explain to the people why we should stop crying.  Do you know how much firebloom was turned in yesterday? I bet you don't, and once you figure that out, maybe, just maybe you'll change your outlook, but reading your past posts makes that very unlikely.

Edited March 10, 2017 by Pest

[taladril 43]

You guys seriously think that the admins are gonna sit there month after month going la la la la as the server implodes? Wait until we actually get to that 3-4 week period that the admins were expecting. Then and only then would a potential solution be discussed. Everybody's freaking out and leaving the server (lol?) after 6 days of the war effort. My god, how do you people feed and clothe yourselves?

[Pest 3]

1 minute ago, taladril said:

You guys seriously think that the admins are gonna sit there month after month going la la la la as the server implodes? Wait until we actually get to that 3-4 week period that the admins were expecting. Then and only then would a potential solution be discussed. Everybody's freaking out and leaving the server (lol?) after 6 days of the war effort. My god, how do you people feed and clothe yourselves?

5 guilds on alliance have, or are already disbanding. I know <Echo> isn't ready for AQ yet, which is why this is your outlook, but most other guilds are. Take it easy.

[taladril 43]

Then they can't compete in a vanilla environment. If waiting a few more weeks is too hard then they would implode at the naxx level anyway. And we're plenty ready and excited for new content like everyone. We aren't sitting here 2 months beyond the war effort with no end in sight. If that was the case I'd be concerned like everyone. War effort hasn't even been out a week yet. NOT EVEN A WEEK and yet there's complaining. I get that there's a supply problem and I wouldn't turn in fireblooms either. But that's not the problem. The problem is people are freaking out and it's NOT EVEN BEEN A WEEK.

[Forest_ 40]

Shameless plug for the public tracking sheet I made.

This contains daily numbers and percentages. We're chugging along at just over 1% per day right now after the beginning rush.

The solution to the problem is to ACTUALLY GO OUT AND FARM MATERIALS, don't assume everyone will do it for you. If EVERYONE assumes that EVERYONE ELSE will do it, then no one is doing it.

Participate!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x03BIdgIne9SVIOc016T-eHgx-cJZkXv6sEsYXD9yh8/edit#gid=1721870152

[Hurricane2 2]

3 hours ago, mytchi3 said:

Instead of stupid posting go farm them yourseft. Its not only fireblooms that have unfarmable in any reasonable time numbers. 

Those numbers were set high to postpone release by several months it seems. Population will decrease and atm nobody who can add 1+1 will turn them in or farm them until @Shenna openly adresses this issue.

We expected mata to be at 200 to 500% of blizz values. But nobody expected this 30x 40x the ammount.

Its demoralizing 

I don't play on anathema but if it's really 30x the normal values then it's obvious they are delaying it on purpose.  They have time to change it if they want but it's no accident the amounts they chose.

[Nadlek 0]

if dynamic respawn would actually be enabled it wouldnt be any problem ...

[Pest 3]

4 minutes ago, taladril said:

Then they can't compete in a vanilla environment. If waiting a few more weeks is too hard then they would implode at the naxx level anyway. And we're plenty ready and excited for new content like everyone. We aren't sitting here 2 months beyond the war effort with no end in sight. If that was the case I'd be concerned like everyone. War effort hasn't even been out a week yet. NOT EVEN A WEEK and yet there's complaining. I get that there's a supply problem and I wouldn't turn in fireblooms either. But that's not the problem. The problem is people are freaking out and it's NOT EVEN BEEN A WEEK.

It hasn't been a week, but using some basic math, which might be hard for the people saying, "Go farm the mats!" You're looking at minimum 4 months until AQ drops.  I don't where the fuck they got their numbers for this stock piling bullshit, but it's clearly not right. Those copper bars lmao. Those cooking materials lmao. Those herbs lmao.  Yeah, yeah, people stockpiled those materials.   

[taladril 43]

So because the top guild on the server up and quits because they're bored and don't want to wait an unknown amount of time, I'm supposed to act like this means something? I'm supposed to bow to them and say oh well since they left it's a big deal? I know why they quit. They were mad because the scarab lord situation changed. They wanted to farm bugs. They had no intention of helping for the war effort. Now that the farming of bugs is way off in the distance after the war effort they decide to quit instead of wait. Fine, their prerogative. But it doesn't change the fact that whining should be happening after the point where the devs thought the war effort would last to. Starting to complain instantly when it comes out is just silly.

[mytchi3 1]

8 minutes ago, taladril said:

So because the top guild on the server up and quits because they're bored and don't want to wait an unknown amount of time, I'm supposed to act like this means something? I'm supposed to bow to them and say oh well since they left it's a big deal? I know why they quit. They were mad because the scarab lord situation changed. They wanted to farm bugs. They had no intention of helping for the war effort. Now that the farming of bugs is way off in the distance after the war effort they decide to quit instead of wait. Fine, their prerogative. But it doesn't change the fact that whining should be happening after the point where the devs thought the war effort would last to. Starting to complain instantly when it comes out is just silly.

Welll some of us think faster than others. For many people it was obvious after they saw ammounts on first day.

Its not 2006 anymore and people know fire will be the spec for mages from now on and firepower elixirs need 3 fireblooms.

Might as well be black lotus in was efforts the same exact thing.

And the mount situation they would get over it and after all the screwups with pvp gear war efforts and others they lost faith they have skilled developers who can release aq without bugs

Edited March 10, 2017 by mytchi3

[qbradq 0]

43 minutes ago, Pest said:

Let's just say we even get 1/4 of the nodes(lmao) The war effort will come to an end in 2019.

Challenge accepted.

Elysium has yet to release their static database files, but if we assume they use the ManGOS Zero database at least for Firebloom there are 198 spawners total each on a 5 minute respawn delay. If 1/4 (about 50) of those spawns were farmed as efficiently as possible and turned in it would take 708 hours, or just over four weeks (ending April 9, 2017).

SO GET OUT AND FARM

[Pest 3]

24 minutes ago, qbradq said:

Challenge accepted.

Elysium has yet to release their static database files, but if we assume they use the ManGOS Zero database at least for Firebloom there are 198 spawners total each on a 5 minute respawn delay. If 1/4 (about 50) of those spawns were farmed as efficiently as possible and turned in it would take 708 hours, or just over four weeks (ending April 9, 2017).

SO GET OUT AND FARM

Lmao. Okay, explain why there has only been 800 firebloom turned in the last 2 days?  You talk the talk. Post screenshots of YOU farming firebloom, and turning them in. I'll be waiting.

[Outstanding 10]

Oh dear God. IF they follow standard Blizzlike mantra then after 30 days they will start auto-complete and the war effort will be over 30 days later, less whatever is already handed in. 

So 60 days max.

The questions you should be asking the staff here is ''are you going to implement auto-complete?''

If the answer is yes, then you'll have AQ with two months

If the answer is no, then it's purely down to delaying the event for as long as possible.

This is the ONLY thing that's important.

[Lollies 0]

They have said they will reassess the situation down the track, these threads are getting tiresome.