Please cap respec cost at 5 gold.

[Tinkler 2]

57 minutes ago, Numeta said:

Funny thats all you sweaty nerds can reply with is "muh vanilla experience" or "go back to retail"

 

You guys must be smart irl.

We just have a better understanding of economics. When the price to respec is high, people accept a player's spec as given. If it were close to free, people would demand that you respec constantly. We see this same behavior in things like university education as it applied to the job market. When a large percentage of people are educated, employers can demand absurd requirements for entry level positions. The easier it is to have absurd demands, the more likely it becomes. When there is no cost to respec, you could be turned down for a dps spot in stratholme because the party wants an ice mage and you happen to be an arcane mage. Maybe you won't spend the 5g to respec, but they can find someone else who will. Then you'll come back and demand it cost 100g to respec.

[Numeta 4]

Now you're trying to relate irl job hunting, to world of warcraft. I honestly can't imagine how you guys type the dumbest shit, read it and then press reply and let it sit there? LM A O

 

I can well assure you no1 gives a fuck what spec you are in instances, and if they did care that's the whole point. 5g to easily respec. You're so fucking stupid it hurts replying.

Edited March 20, 2017 by Numeta

[flowqz 34]

On 20.3.2017 at 1:54 AM, Numeta said:

Now you're trying to relate irl job hunting, to world of warcraft. I honestly can't imagine how you guys type the dumbest shit, read it and then press reply and let it sit there? LM A O

 

I can well assure you no1 gives a fuck what spec you are in instances, and if they did care that's the whole point. 5g to easily respec. You're so fucking stupid it hurts replying.

you will get over it after u finish puberty.

 

[Justme 9]

then what would the point of talent trees be? There is a reason why retail got rid of them.

[Storfan 24]

Wants to play on vanilla server. Questions vanilla gameplay and systems.

This has got to be a troll. ABANDON SHIP!

[csant 3]

Vanilla was far from prefect. 

[Storfan 24]

32 minutes ago, csant said:

Vanilla was far from prefect. 

Custom servers are that way -->

<-- Or this way, i forget.

[csant 3]

2 minutes ago, Storfan said:

Custom servers are that way -->

<-- Or this way, i forget.

Im not complaining. 

[shankerchief 2]

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Those that are against a change to a lower fixed respec cost, because that is not how it was in Vanilla.

How do you feel about Elysium changing mob behaviour to be different to how it was back in Vanilla?

BRD / Diremaul mobs for example. 

 

[quasexort 4]

I know they will never change it but something like a 30g cap seems like it wouldn't really be bad.  It's enough gold to where you wouldn't just wastefully respec all the time but not high enough to deter you from ever respecing.  Right now i'm at 50g respec so I basically just raid log since there's really nothing fun to do after raids are cleared for the week.  If it was 30g i'd probably repsec and do some BGs during the weekend and be more active in general.  I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this.  I doubt it ever happens because it isn't blizzlike and the backlash would do more harm than good but when I think about this sort of change I really don't see how it is an awful idea.

[shankerchief 2]

18 minutes ago, quasexort said:

I know they will never change it but something like a 30g cap seems like it wouldn't really be bad.  It's enough gold to where you wouldn't just wastefully respec all the time but not high enough to deter you from ever respecing.  Right now i'm at 50g respec so I basically just raid log since there's really nothing fun to do after raids are cleared for the week.  If it was 30g i'd probably repsec and do some BGs during the weekend and be more active in general.  I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this.  I doubt it ever happens because it isn't blizzlike and the backlash would do more harm than good but when I think about this sort of change I really don't see how it is an awful idea.

My thoughts exactly.

I get that people are against it because it isn't "blizz-like", but there are loads of other things about Elysium you could argue are not truly "blizz-like".

Lowering the respec cost can be something that improves a lot of people's in-game experience. Especially so with the long wait on content + Raidlogger crew contingent.

Jus' food fo thought.

[Lorilay 12]

Considering the amount of inflation and gold hitting the economy as a result of the war effort (and other farming), I don't see how lowering a gold sink is a good idea.

[Overtime 6]

4 hours ago, shankerchief said:

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Those that are against a change to a lower fixed respec cost, because that is not how it was in Vanilla.

How do you feel about Elysium changing mob behaviour to be different to how it was back in Vanilla?

BRD / Diremaul mobs for example. 

 

But did Elysium actually change them? Far as I know, Nostalrius did. Could always ask for fix?

[Dralek 5]

6 hours ago, shankerchief said:

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Those that are against a change to a lower fixed respec cost, because that is not how it was in Vanilla.

How do you feel about Elysium changing mob behaviour to be different to how it was back in Vanilla?

BRD / Diremaul mobs for example. 

 

A blizzlike server tries to make the game as close as posible to the original game. While some things will be added as "custom", they are usually done under the guideline of mantaining the spirit of the original content. The increased requirements of the war effort are the perfect example: in vanilla wow once the war effort was announced, players had no idea what they had to gather, while here everyone did and had already began saving materials for it, thus a "custom"  change was implemented, increased requirements, with the objective of making the war effort last the same amount as it did in retail wow, and not be over in one day.

Gold respecs are high, because vanilla does not encourage you to respec. Lowering the cost of respecs would go against the spirit of vanilla wow, because it would encourage you to respec as often as you can (as Tinkler explained).

Edited March 21, 2017 by Dralek

[TTL 6]

On 3/16/2017 at 7:14 PM, Duks said:

Respec Rates are blizzlike, if you don't like that you may want to play retail. I heard respecing is free :)

That moment you get shredded by a Dev.

[Numeta 4]

15 hours ago, Lorilay said:

Considering the amount of inflation and gold hitting the economy as a result of the war effort (and other farming), I don't see how lowering a gold sink is a good idea.

Bruh this is Elysium, there is no war effort LMAO

 

 

To Dralak

 

"Gold respecs are high, because vanilla does not encourage you to respec. Lowering the cost of respecs would go against the spirit of vanilla wow, because it would encourage you to respec as often as you can (as Tinkler explained)."


Gold respecs are not priced so highly because Blizzard planned this. They were just idiots who didn't have the foresight to see how awful their system was, so people just dealt with it for years until dual specs came out. Please don't give blizzard credit for being smart.

 

The respec gold system is shit. Anyone who says it isn't is just braindead. Just because the old system was terrible doesn't mean you can't change it to make it amazing. Retardssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

 

 

Edited March 22, 2017 by Numeta

[Numeta 4]

awaiting relevant response

[Muldreg 3]

On 3/14/2017 at 6:32 PM, behemothdog said:

Quote

Posted January 12 · Report post

The Elysium Project team is always interested to hear feedback from the players. However, we do have our project philosophy, which is to create and maintain a Blizzlike vanilla server for all players. This means that some suggestions will always be refused and posting them is a waste of time.

Below is a non-exhaustive list of suggestions that you should not bother posting:

1. Dual-spec
2. Removed / reduced re-spec costs
3. Dungeon finder / group finder
4. Name / race / class / faction / appearance change services
5. Any Pay-To-Win services
6. Increased XP / Gold / Honour rates
7. WoD models or allowing players to edit game files

We reserve the right to add more suggestions to the list if necessary. Thank you for keeping this list in mind.

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/32244-before-posting-a-suggestion-read-me/

 

I am pretty sure this was the most relevant response in this entire thread.. it pretty much explains everything you needed and it was the 7th reply.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Muldreg

[Software 9]

What a turd...

 

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

No. Keep it at 50g, please. Have the players play the game and play the game.

No welfare requests of dev intervention into the game core, please.

[Emptora 17]

On 3/19/2017 at 11:08 AM, Numeta said:

Funny thats all you sweaty nerds can reply with is "muh vanilla experience" or "go back to retail"

 

You guys must be smart irl.

Yeah actually the correlation is pretty simple. If you want shit spoonfed to you, go to retail.

[Zargoth 3]

Please! Just close this thread. It should never have been  opened in the first place.

 

[Banezilla 2]

On 03/13/2017 at 11:49 AM, Numeta said:

This shit is total fucking aids and any one in afavor of ridiculous gold cost for respeccing is insane.

It's a noble idea. The purists will always say no.

[Muldreg 3]

15 minutes ago, Banezilla said:

It's a noble idea. The purists will always say no.

"Purist" don't have to say anything, the Devs did it for them.

[Banezilla 2]

The devs are purists.