Lorilay 12 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 Make it so that individual effort makes a tangible contribution, and I think you will see numbers start rising more. The psychology of having to farm millions of items versus thousands is really affecting me. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Link 1 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, Forest_ said: Hi @Link I've been keeping track of the War Effort numbers on a public Google Doc so you can take a look for yourselves. But the stockpiles have clearly run out, we were at about 1.20% per day last week and this week we are down to about 0.65% per day. Hopefully these numbers help you guys make the best decision possible. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x03BIdgIne9SVIOc016T-eHgx-cJZkXv6sEsYXD9yh8/edit#gid=1721870152 Yes we have been tracking it also. A side note about stock piles....They haven't run out, actually players have increased the amount stored on active accounts, but they are not turning them in. Total active player log ins since WE started could finished just over 2 war efforts with current set totals 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gardash 11 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Ickus said: They said they were addressing it When I posted, Link hadn't posted yet. Thanks for the reply @Link 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forest_ 40 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Link said: Ya we have been trackback it also. A side note about stock piles....They haven't run out actually players have increased the amount stored on active accounts, but they are not turning them in. Total active player log ins since WE started could finished just over 2 war efforts with current set totals I suppose what I should've said is that the contributions to the War Effort have stopped. I don't think the people with stockpiled mats have any interest in turning them in. Or if they're holding the server hostage for money that's even worse. Basically what Lorilay said, if we have the ability to make meaningful change (significant reductions in size) through singular farming effort I think that people will be reinvigorated to farm. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kizzy2 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, Ickus said: They said they were addressing it lets hope sooner rather than 3months down the line... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ickus 40 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, kizzy2 said: lets hope sooner rather than 3months down the line... Dude read the other comments. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xestikas 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, mytchi3 said: I dont believe this I know you have logs i just dont believe there is 800k of firebloom stored in horde active accounts There might be firebloom for all the pots etc but surely there are not millions of copper or steaks and such. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pest 3 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Link said: Yes we have been tracking it also. A side note about stock piles....They haven't run out, actually players have increased the amount stored on active accounts, but they are not turning them in. Total active player log ins since WE started could finished just over 2 war efforts with current set totals It's okay, the reason is because guilds are waiting for other guilds to turn in their materials, so they can turn there materials in before a reset. Grab the scepter quest that isn't even in the game yet. Do BWL, reset, do BWL again, open AQ40. It's that simple, really. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haestingas 30 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 Who are these guilds hoarding materials? I really don't think that's actually happening at all outside of maybe Coalition, NOPE, and Dreamstate. I can speak for Reign and to a lesser extent Convulsion that neither of them have a stockpile. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gehere 8 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) There is a core element here, that ALL Raiders should realise.. Greed before Need - is actually selfish in this event. For the better of Anathema, you should all fight for the cause. Show Staff that you actually want this. Quit the bickering about the sacrifice you're making - and open those gates. Clean up the stock piles. Restart the server economy. Anathema is begging.... Need Before Greed. Edited March 17, 2017 by Gehere 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slicy 11 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Haestingas said: maybe Coalition, NOPE, and Dreamstate. I can tell you Coalition is not hoarding anything. I'm personally turning in mats for over 1 000 signets every day. The majority of players who are hoarding mats is the greedy mass thinking getting richer will make them any better at the game or the clueless ones thinking they will need greater firepower in AQ. The rest either gave up farming unrealistic amounts, don't have time for it, raid log and play waiting game or their farming is too meaningful (0.50% / day won't get us far). Edited March 17, 2017 by Slicy 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zargoth 3 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 If some of you spent as much time farming mats for the War Effort as you do whining in the forums, the War Effort would already be over. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slicy 11 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Zargoth said: If some of you spent as much time farming mats for the War Effort as you do whining in the forums, the War Effort would already be over. Crafting stuff takes a lot of time though. But I guess you haven't noticed it ? x) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotmilk0112 10 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 7:19 AM, gh0un said: I am one of those people sitting on 3000 copper bars (and a bunch of other materials for that matter). You wanna know why im not turning them in? Because the expected value from turning them in is a lot less than the expected value from selling them on the AH. The war effort rewards are simply garbage for some of the items required, so there is absolutely no incentive for me to turn my materials in. Don't copper bars go for like 30-40 silver per stack on the AH? At least, that's how much they sell for on Darrowshire. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wortgewandt 5 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, gotmilk0112 said: Don't copper bars go for like 30-40 silver per stack on the AH? At least, that's how much they sell for on Darrowshire. Last time i checked, Anathemas price is around 4-6g per stack atm thanks to the war effort. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moiz 0 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 On 13/03/2017 at 0:36 PM, gh0un said: Why would i donate 1500g just so that .... you can get into AQ? Because, by your own admission... On 13/03/2017 at 0:30 PM, gh0un said: I have more than enough gold. Alas, since the gold that the copper is worth is irrelevant to you, and by extension that amount of copper itself, why not just turn them in to benefit the server? Gold's worthless unless used. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ickus 40 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 See thats the thing. Elysium didnt account for the amount of selfish d-bags on the server that won't turn shit in because they farm gold all day and suck at raiding so bad even in 12 year old content no one will take them to a raid. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 18, 2017 Farming gold is allowed. Being a d-bag is allowed too. As for the aforemented ghoul - guys, stop bothering the golden goblin statue sitting on top of 3k bars copper ziggurat, it belongs to a museum. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mytchi3 1 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Gehere said: There is a core element here, that ALL Raiders should realise.. Greed before Need - is actually selfish in this event. For the better of Anathema, you should all fight for the cause. Show Staff that you actually want this. Quit the bickering about the sacrifice you're making - and open those gates. Clean up the stock piles. Restart the server economy. Anathema is begging.... Need Before Greed. Dont bring this debate here. It was closed you need on epics and its done at that. Turning in mats had nothing to do with greed many are just clueless like thr guy who mistakes copper bars for gold bars and refuses to turn them in 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sceto 0 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) On 13.3.2017 at 0:23 AM, Cogfather said: we took 70% of stockpiled materials on ACTIVE level 60 accounts logged in during the month of February. A lot of players switched from Anathema to one of the new servers and only log in once in a while. They basically don't really care about Anathema anymore. IMO someone that only logged in once in a month should't be considered as an active account. Furthermore with the addition of the new servers, Anathema doesn't attract new players who would automatically gather low level WE materials while leveling. 20 hours ago, Slicy said: BUMP. Anathema pop is bleeding out. Don't underestimate the snowball effect. React now and fix your war effort nonsense. Take into account the ever decreasing population. The more you wait the faster players will give up the project. This. Edited March 18, 2017 by Sceto 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neriel 0 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 Tbh Anathema still attracts a lot new ppl and will continue to do so even more so with AQ open. But ofc not in a scale that could meet the demand of WE materials needed. Me alone got like 10 friends starting at anathema ... friends will always want to play with eachother. ;) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DPS 6 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 Any news about reducing War Effort numbers? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mytchi3 1 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Acording to @Link people have gathered mats sufficient for 2x WE now so numbers will increase probably right guys??? #greedyoldgods Edited March 18, 2017 by mytchi3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wirt 8 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 2 hours ago, mytchi3 said: Acording to @Link people have gathered mats sufficient for 2x WE now so numbers will increase probably right guys??? #greedyoldgods Yes, If they stand by their initial logic they should raise the materials needed by a considerable amount. They could add a humorous line along the update of increased materials just like the first time. I'm sure it'll hit a home run. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pest 3 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 4 hours ago, mytchi3 said: Acording to @Link people have gathered mats sufficient for 2x WE now so numbers will increase probably right guys??? #greedyoldgods You know what's even funnier about them hoarding? Yeah, they'll have a lot of gold, but what good would that do when the server fucking rips lol. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites