The Devilsaur monopoly.

[metagame 8]

43 minutes ago, homu2 said:

>Population: 6245  in prime time

>-2k online in a week

it's getting hard to sell any right?

http://vanillaradar.com/elysium-stats/anathema/

[homu2 1]

1 час назад, Spanishboss сказал:

it is instant selling now that you ask, thanks for caring.

 

 

some of your mafia bois desperately c.o.d.ing it to my alt for 16g

i'm pretty sure it sells well lol

[Nosleep 4]

3 hours ago, Spanishboss said:

fk you got me, i regret all  isaid, sorry to everyone.

 

 

WTS devilsaur leather, since i can actually farm all i want, bcause im not an autistic pandarian fuk who cant even gather enough ppl in a MMORPG to get what he wants.

lol entry lvl troll.. the mafia doesnt effect me in the slightest, your argument is fail in so many ways haha :P

 

where did u learn to troll? yahoo comments and youtube?  whats next? more random insults and name calling, avoiding any and all points.. then on to the mum insults? roflmao

Edited March 9, 2017 by Nosleep

[Nosleep 4]

2 hours ago, Morathe said:

Its very nice of you but you miss the point. I just said that allowing it as a general rule would break the system. Anyway I explained before why comparing cooperating between horde and alliance in world is totally different matter. Why they cooperate? because you can't kill alliance as alliance obviously. You'd be left with 2 options A) play a tag game (generally internet speed game cuz person with 100ms can't outtag a guy with 15ms) B) join and share gold. Option B is totally pointless cause you'd need to accept everyone that comes around which would drop the profitability by tons, also price would drop due to pure accessibility of devilsaur leather. Also major obstacle in "faction" cooperation is that people don't like each other... there are some guilds that have a grudge of a sort and don't want to work with each other. 

 

nah dude i got your point, i just have a different opinion, check the other post where i quoted you and explain in much detail.

[Spanishboss 1]

27 minutes ago, devilsaurPVEerBGwintrader said:

your discord is in shambles and you are literally autistic regardless of which pserver version of wow you play. you dont have friends in game you have people with small egos you bully into coming to do work for you without paying them back because they want an opportunity to grief players of their same faction

the admins "tolerating" behavior that breaks the ToU because there are too many players engaging in it to enforce the rules is not the end of the story, the thread now clearly remains open for further discussion

There is also no way to combat this by boycotting the AH because other players will continue to purchase gold in order to acquire their pre bis, and this already accounts for hundreds of thousands of purchased gold

 MILLIONS MATE, MILLIONS! we re GMs actually if you like it more.

[Irisai 8]

It's time to lock the thread.

[Daxtar 1]

On 3/8/2017 at 7:27 PM, Hurricane2 said:

The fact they can't communicate in game is my point and Blizzard's point exactly.  Again being able to do it doesn't mean you should.

Nothing prevented you in WoW to buy 2 accounts, to have a character on both factions to do this. Blizzard is a money hungry company, and this was one way to secure people having multible accounts.

[Midoriko 2]

Its only that expensive because there are that many rogues.

[Lorilay 12]

Teamspeak existed in vanilla as well. Blizzard never limited people to only using in-game communication (and the terrible quality of their voice comms in later expansions is a testament to this). You're also not required to kill all players of the opposite faction you see. If you only want to kill a select few, then that's on you. Also, @Daxtar stop killing my alt trying to farm war effort materials!

[Docholy 4]

TO EVERYONE QQ'ing, watch this video. This rogue grieved and sniped countless devilsaur leather. All you QQ quitters dont have skill or the drive to form groups to fight back. Dont blame the devs.

 

 

[Voice 2]

Are you defending the goldtrade Docholy?, you sound like it )

 

[Jeddite 9]

1 hour ago, Docholy said:

TO EVERYONE QQ'ing, watch this video. This rogue grieved and sniped countless devilsaur leather. All you QQ quitters dont have skill or the drive to form groups to fight back. Dont blame the devs.

 

 

 

I wish I had made videos of Jeddite fucking with people druid-style over adamantium veins in Nagrand.  

Wouldn't have been as lulzy as stealing devilsaur corpses, but I wish I had done that for posterity.

[behemothdog 4]

2 hours ago, Docholy said:

TO EVERYONE QQ'ing, watch this video. This rogue grieved and sniped countless devilsaur leather. All you QQ quitters dont have skill or the drive to form groups to fight back. Dont blame the devs.

 

 

Holy shit, that was a fun watch.  

THAT is how you solve a 'problem' You get your hands dirty. /respect

EDIT yes I am happy that this is what got my 100th post. GG man Good fucking game. 

Edited March 10, 2017 by behemothdog

[nooobieee 3]

Again, the point is not that some group is trying to corner the market on some resource. The point is two groups are wintrading against their own faction. Helping the opposing faction win PvP fights is wintrading and against the rules.

[Nosleep 4]

5 hours ago, Voice said:

Are you defending the goldtrade Docholy?, you sound like it )

 

nah he is showing someone stealing the skins of the cartel boys,  and calling everyone a qq'er with no skill.. or something like that.

3 hours ago, nooobieee said:

Again, the point is not that some group is trying to corner the market on some resource. The point is two groups are wintrading against their own faction. Helping the opposing faction win PvP fights is wintrading and against the rules.

^ THIS is the point.... i dont care about them cornering the market, there is no proof of gold selling.. but they are trading wins with each other, opposite factions help each other to win pvp battles and then trade that favor back again.

 

they trade pvp wins... they win trade.

 

hahaha cartel is a bunch of fail boys! :P 

they are children, thieves, ninja's... gold sellers (prob) .. they have no skill except for ganking and ninja skinning, win trade is the only way they win fights...they try to get ppl banned cos they are too scared to fight like men....

prob get bullied in RL and so have to come to MMO and be the bully to feel good.

they also are very scared now.. they tried to get me banned yesterday but they have such childish methods that all that happened is i got them banned... hope your 333 (or more) gold got caught in the ban hammer... or did you have time to move it?? 

scared little boys crying ... what the matter cartel? got no balls to fight like men?  can only win trade and cheat and try to get ppl banned? hahahahah little youtube troll boys hahaha.... 

 

well... welcome to big boy school boys.

(lvl 6 tried to trade me 333g.. i closed trade window insta every time.. he followed me and tried again 3 times, then he said this)

ohhh he sooo wanted me to take that ban gold didnt you boy??  well... grow some balls and come fight me in un'goro.. ill be there, skinning devilsaurs... waiting for you little youtube trolls hahahaha

Edited March 10, 2017 by Nosleep

[Amfiketo 1]

@Nosleep would it be bannable if you have taken the gold and report it to GM right away to check if it's legit? I ask because I would do that and want to know if it is a bad idea.

[Fladrif 14]

1 hour ago, Amfiketo said:

@Nosleep would it be bannable if you have taken the gold and report it to GM right away to check if it's legit? I ask because I would do that and want to know if it is a bad idea.

you don't need to take the gold for report, imo.

[shankerchief 2]

3 hours ago, Nosleep said:

nah he is showing someone stealing the skins of the cartel boys,  and calling everyone a qq'er with no skill.. or something like that.

^ THIS is the point.... idont care about them cornering the market, there is no proof of gold selling.. but they are trading wins with each other, opposite factions help each other to win pvp battles and then trade that favor back again.

 

they trade pvp wins... they win trade.

 

hahaha cartel is a bunch of fail boys! :P 

they are children, thieves, ninja's... gold sellers (prob) ..they have no skill except for ganking and ninja skinning, win trade is the only way they win fights...they try to get ppl banned cos they are too scared to fight like men....

prob get bullied in RL and so have to come to MMO and be the bully to feel good.

they also are very scared now.. they tried to get me banned yesterday but they have such childish methods that all that happened is i got them banned... hope your 333 (or more) gold got caught in the ban hammer... or did you have time to move it?? 

scared little boys crying ... what the matter cartel? got no balls to fight like men?  can only win trade and cheat and try to get ppl banned? hahahahah little youtube troll boys hahaha.... 

 

well... welcome to big boy school boys.

(lvl 6 tried to trade me 333g.. i closed trade window insta every time.. he followed me and tried again 3 times, then he said this)

ohhh he sooo wanted me to take that ban gold didnt you boy??  well... grow some balls and come fight me in un'goro.. ill be there, skinning devilsaurs... waiting for you little youtube trolls hahahaha

:O

[Yoga 3]

At least the cartel came through: Rugged Leather war effort is done.

[Nosleep 4]

3 hours ago, Amfiketo said:

@Nosleep would it be bannable if you have taken the gold and report it to GM right away to check if it's legit? I ask because I would do that and want to know if it is a bad idea.

I dont know, i didnt ask.

2 hours ago, Fladrif said:

you don't need to take the gold for report, imo.

100%

[Myllz 8]

lulz, that video's awesome.

[Morathe 5]

18 hours ago, devilsaurPVEerBGwintrader said:

your discord is in shambles and you are literally autistic regardless of which pserver version of wow you play. you dont have friends in game you have people with small egos you bully into coming to do work for you without paying them back because they want an opportunity to grief players of their same faction

the admins "tolerating" behavior that breaks the ToU because there are too many players engaging in it to enforce the rules is not the end of the story, the thread now clearly remains open for further discussion

There is also no way to combat this by boycotting the AH because other players will continue to purchase gold in order to acquire their pre bis, and this already accounts for hundreds of thousands of purchased gold

They are not "tolerating" they are allowing it cuz its a fucking mmo, not every social aspect (for the good or the bad) is supposed to be nazi controlled by admins. If there are people that come to ungoro just to grief their own faction because they hate fuckheads that hide behind the chars they grief then so be it. Stop with that carebear mentality that makes you entitled for GM help whenever u get fucked in the ass cuz u're A) noob B) unsocial fag that can't make friends. 

TL:DR If staff wanted this to stop all they'd need to do is perma ban most active ungoro folks, rest would waver away. They won't because they realize its best to leave gameplay for players, its neither hacking nor bug amusing nor exploiting. At worst its based on grudge against other players but gm's shouldn't and won't tell you to like every1 in ur faction. 

[Morathe 5]

6 hours ago, Nosleep said:

^ THIS is the point.... i dont care about them cornering the market, there is no proof of gold selling.. but they are trading wins with each other, opposite factions help each other to win pvp battles and then trade that favor back again.

You completely don't understand a subject of win trading I'm afraid. When there are 20 allies trying to tag devilsaur and its like 3 different groups one of those groups call for horde friends to try and kill other allies. Those battles are sometimes quite ruthless and not a free win so I dunno what you consider a win trade here... those other allies fight for their lives. Stop trying to stretch battleground "wintrade' term into that activity cause its A) completely different environment B) completely different impact on server and you're only confusing people. 

Its allowed to have friends on different faction and using that relation for mutual benefit. You're not forced to work for the gain of your own faction as you're not forced to like rival guilds. Politics is a part of a MMO gameplay so stop trying to encircle that with nazi rules just because you suck at politics and get fucked in the ass cause of that. I know thats harsh but thats the name of the game. 

Anyway cooperating with horde like that was the same on retail or currently in retail... how many times I saw swifty "call his horde friends" to form a raid to kill an ally multiboxer while at the same time saying to all allies not to touch this horde group. Its been always like that, you folks are only butthurt cause u're not a part of a club and thats the only concern here. 

Edited March 10, 2017 by Morathe

[Nosleep 4]

58 minutes ago, Morathe said:

You completely don't understand a subject of win trading I'm afraid. When there are 20 allies trying to tag devilsaur and its like 3 different groups one of those groups call for horde friends to try and kill other allies. Those battles are sometimes quite ruthless and not a free win so I dunno what you consider a win trade here... those other allies fight for their lives. Stop trying to stretch battleground "wintrade' term into that activity cause its A) completely different environment B) completely different impact on server and you're only confusing people. 

Its allowed to have friends on different faction and using that relation for mutual benefit. You're not forced to work for the gain of your own faction as you're not forced to like rival guilds. Politics is a part of a MMO gameplay so stop trying to encircle that with nazi rules just because you suck at politics and get fucked in the ass cause of that. I know thats harsh but thats the name of the game. 

Anyway cooperating with horde like that was the same on retail or currently in retail... how many times I saw swifty "call his horde friends" to form a raid to kill an ally multiboxer while at the same time saying to all allies not to touch this horde group. Its been always like that, you folks are only butthurt cause u're not a part of a club and thats the only concern here. 

I have explained in detail why its the same in principle many times on this thread... you have totally missed the entire point about why the comparison between BG win trade and this situation of co-op pvp to win fights, is being made. 

And your examples are irrelevant because however true they are, they are not relevant to the point being made.

The reason you have missed it, i assume, is because you have jumped to the end of the thread without reading anything beforehand (prob cos u cant be bothered or dont think its worth it) which has lead you to make this post, showing your ignorance of the actual point being made when you give so many examples of things that I have not said anything about.

Its like if i say ''i thinking skinning people alive is wrong'' and you argue that if someone punches you in the face, you should punch them back.... its an irrelevant point.

 

also lol, im not effected by this so called mafia in the slightest, im not on elysium and i have already told them to come to my server and try to kill me, many time, stating i have no probs with then farming co-op etc etc etc... you even quote me saying this and then you suggest i want to join them or have probs with farming... doh!

 

but again, you would know this if you had bothered to understand the conversation you jumped head 1st into, instead with your pointless examples of things no one is talking about...accusing me of crying cos i cant get devilsaurs, when i can and do get them, im not on that server lol and they dont effect me..

 

lol.

 

also, your constant statements like... ''youre butthurt and want to join them'' ...or... ''nazi rules just because you suck at politics and get fucked in the ass cause of that'' ...are both insulting and demeaning.. both of which i dont deserve.. never mind how inaccurate they are.

 

try actually reading what someone says b4 u quote them, misrepresent the quote, make statements the quote that conflict with the quote its self, and insult them huh? because atm, its you who sounds angry and how do you put it? ''butthurt''

Edited March 10, 2017 by Nosleep

[Morathe 5]

29 minutes ago, Nosleep said:

also lol, im not effected by this so called mafia in the slightest, im not on elysium and i have already told them to come to my server and try to kill me, many time, stating i have no probs with then farming co-op etc etc etc... you even quote me saying this and then you suggest i want to join them or have probs with farming... doh!

but again, you would know this if you had bothered to understand the conversation you jumped head 1st into, instead with your pointless examples of things no one is talking about...accusing me of crying cos i cant get devilsaurs, when i can and do get them, im not on that server lol and they dont effect me..

its you who sounds angry and how do you put it? ''butthurt''

A) So u're irrelevant in this discussion and you admit that, good that we have that out of the way.

B) I didn't bother to read 9 pages of semi intellectual crap, you got that right, I don't need to read all that if you use term that doesn't match the subject you move in singular post... no matter how hard you tried to stretch it into your argumentation before. Why would I need to read 9 pages of your attempts to stretch the meaning of a term everyone knows? To confuse myself? Or to trouble myself with battling every semi-logic argument that you produced to achieve your goal? As they say "bitch please...". 

C) Oh yes very much so. I'm angry for a living.